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echo: philos
to: DAY BROWN
from: DAVID MARTORANA
date: 1998-04-15 23:43:00
subject: `Curable Souls`

 @@> On Apr-14-98 Day Brown wrote to David Martorana
 @@> on "curable Souls"
 
 DM>>> Curable soul ???  If I got any fragments of it correct, Socrates
 DM>>> DM>> "implied" (as later polished by Plato) the soul could be made
 DM>>> right (cured) if its three parts could be brought into balance?
 
 DB> If we exist on a holodeck David, then there is also a backup copy
 DB> in the computer that projects reality, and that copy continues to
 DB> exist after death.  After death, awareness remains with that copy
 DB> in cyberspace, which unlike the mind, has a perfect memory.
 
 DB> Given that no*body* will have a body after death, what will souls
 DB> use to *identify* one another?  How do you tell which soul is ill
 DB> enough to need 'curing'?  Wouldn't that decision arise out of the
 DB> VCR tapes of the lives lived?  What is it that could be done that
 DB> would constitute a cure?
 
     Mr Brown !!! you are opening the Pandora's box of "consciousness
     into reality", toying with the soul as some media function in the
     mix with a still in "thought-design-phase "HOLODECK" as a dynamic
     exploratory device.  That is, for me, a bit of metal to toss around.
     For one, we would have to have some "working definitions" of agreement
     as to how we might use the player elements and the construction of
     the stage we would play them on.
 
     Some player elements:
     1. Qualities of being (the goods, the bads and the uglies...plus)
     2. Soul (smart communications media)?
     3. Awareness/consciousness (smart gameboard ?)
     4. Death and/or optional continuations/states of "being"
     5. Purpose of conscious being ?
 
  I would accept the "Holodeck" as a smart abstraction of the stage
  function, but the rest might require some negotiation ...I think.
  Initially it can only be a game with players ....with some hope
  that a pearl might lurk in an unexpected mud bank ...accident or ???
  Such an activity would be an exploration into the 2nd heaviest
  "CORNER"  of existence (the 1st being the actual inventor of such a
  "CORNER" )! The more religious on this echo might get the
  impression we are searching out a God they have already found !
 
 DB> Well, for one, everyone would know that there could be no secrets
 DB> among them, that no noble, nor despicable act could remain hidden
 DB> from them.  Wouldn't the balance between noblity and depravity be
 DB> used for the diagnosis?  And where the balance is lacking, what's
 DB> to be done?  Erasure? Another option would be another form for an
 DB> ill soul to take... re-incarnation? or, perhaps more accurrately,
 DB> a re*form*ation, not limited to forms in this reality system.
 
   We would first have to conjecture a reason and a will to care
   into concern the items you have listed of importance. Why bother
   to judge, consider repair or punishment? Despicable acts are
   only so by transient definitions of questionable life forms. If
   we are to take such things serious, we might first have to stake
   out the why and what of it. Secrets become meaningless when we
   expand past their limited value ......re-incarnation also becomes
   a questionable waste of being unless the point of evolving can be
   explained as more than a poetic jig! The balance between nobility
   and depravity might be negotiable or non existent variables once
   measured from another vantage. It all becomes a relative game in a
   parochial sandbox ....unless nudged up a notch by some an inspired
   itch or two..............froma where ???
 
                            @@>---Dave
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