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echo: ml_baseball
to: ED GRINNELL
from: STEPHEN FRAZIER
date: 1996-12-30 05:34:00
subject: TBS losing Braves?

-=> Quoting Ed Grinnell to Stephen Frazier <=-
 EG> Stephen was hit by a Randy Johnson fastball for uttering:
 SF> Where did you get this info? I hadn't heard that, and personally, I
 SF> don't think it will happen. TBS is cash cow for whoever owns it and will
 SF> stand to lose too much money if they lose superstation status.
 EG> I got this straight from the horse's mouth. Look, just because YOU
 EG> didn't hear it doesn't mean that it's true. WTBS is under the
 EG> Time-Warner umbrella and Time-Warner, NOT Ted Turner, made this
 EG> decision.
I don't have a problem with you having info that I don't, I just thought that 
you wouldn't mind identifying this "horse" which gave you the info. Is it a 
"confidential source"?
 SF> The Braves are already going to have to pay big bucks to the revenue
 SF> sharing, and to lose millions and millions more to this...It ain't
 SF> gonna happen. If it does, then we know why Ted Turner keeps hiring
 SF> idiots for his front office.
 EG> 1. The Braves will get their $$$ from the organization, whether they
 EG> play on WTBS or not.
THat makes no business sense. The Braves will be run as a separate profit 
center, ad will have to suppor titself. No horse told me that, it's just 
horse 
sense.
 EG> 2. They will lose NOTHING. WTBS won't be hurting because they have
 EG> enough in their film vault to more than compensate for the loss of the
 EG> Braves. The only ones who lose are the Braves' fans.
You sound like you don't know how this thing really works. Next, you'll be 
telling me that TW will soon SELL the team in order to buy MTV or something.
 EG> 3. Ted Turner has less of a say these days. People think that he's
 EG> still the owner of the Hawks but his stake is a minority stake (If you
 EG> look at the Hawks' structure, you'll see the Turner is only a board
 EG> member and that J. Michael Gearon is the Chairman and NOT Turner).
Turner is not a major exec in ANY of his teams. He is the boss at Turner 
broadcasting (even though he reports to Time-Warner), and all his sports 
teams 
have chairmen and/or presidents other than Turner. Turner never did 
personally 
own the Hawks, Flames or Braves, TBS did.
 EG> While he's still top dog in the Braves' organization, he is less of a
 EG> force in the alliance created when Time-Warner and Turner merged.
THat's old news.
 EG> As for the crack about the idiots in the front office -- you're so far
 EG> off that it's not funny. If it wasn't for those *idiots*, Atlanta
 EG> would still be the bush league organization that they turned into in
 EG> the mid-80s.
With the way they are running the organization from the front office, they 
seem pretty bush league to me anyway.
Stephen
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