-=> Quoting Ed Grinnell to Stephen Frazier <=-
 EG> Stephen was hit by a Randy Johnson fastball for uttering:
 SF> either do it or he wouldn't play for a guy like Billy Martin, Dick
 SF> Williams, Sparky Anderson, or Tommy LaSorda. Maybe even Tony LaRussa.
 EG> Baloney. Brett Butler, one of the worst baserunners in history, played
Butler averaged about 40 stolen bases per year and was 44th on the all time 
stolen bases list as of four years ago. One of the worst in history, 
allright. 
Apparently there were only 43 more successful than he, and with a lot more 
years.
 EG> for LaSorda (I think it's hilarious that you put down LaRussa when his
 EG> teams are fairly smart runners). He gets picked off more than anyone
I don't recall putting down LaRussa.
 EG> in baseball but you didn't see LaSorda benching him, did you? Over his
A guy who tries to steal more often will get picked off more often. You 
should 
know that.
 EG> career, Lonnie Smith's upside (You concentrate on his baserunning but
 EG> completely ignore the power hitting that he provided that helped the
 EG> Braves more than his blunder) was better than his downside. THAT is
 EG> why he was with Atlanta.
I didn't forget Lonnie's hitting. were it not for that, he would not have 
played in the NL at all, since he had few other skills. If there ever was a 
prototype DH, Lonnie's your man.
 SF> Minor leagues ain't where they got Lonnie, and it must not be the place
 SF> that taught David Justice, Mark Lemke (the Alfonse-Gaston combo of the
 SF> NL), Ryan (Now, where's that @#*&^ strike zone) Klesko,
 EG> If it wasn't for their minor league system, they'd be a hell of a lot
 EG> worse off. They are far from the worst organization (Major OR Minor)
 EG> when it comes to fundamentals.
I guess we will continue to disagree on that too:)
Stephen
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