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to: Antti Kurenniemi
from: Ellen K.
date: 2003-10-25 23:21:34
subject: Re: Java EULA gotcha

From: Ellen K. 

Wow, Finland leads the world!

This hasn't been publicized here at all, maybe you should let the folks at CNET know.

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:07:49 +0300, "Antti Kurenniemi"
 wrote in message :

>There was a ruling in the high court here a while ago (maybe two months)
>that none of the software EULAs are valid contracts - users can ignore them.
>Standard law applies to software just the same as it does to any item sold.
>
>The ruling also said that the non-transferrable software licenses are not
>valid. Any piece of software can be resold, no matter what the provider says
>("you don't own the software, you just have a license to use it, so you
>can't sell it when you don't use it anymore").
>
>So, this crap that Sun is trying to pull would not fly here. Damn I like
>sensible ruling :-)
>
>
>Antti Kurenniemi
>
>"Ellen K."  wrote in message
>news:a9lhpvodkbpsqlo0hbe2p3s9223mgnaro3{at}4ax.com...
>> From Ed Foster's email letter:
>>
>> A reader recently received a CD for Sun's Java Desktop System Demo and
>> noticed a small sticker on the outside of the plastic wrap. It read:
>>
>> "By opening the software media package, you agree to the terms of the
>> software evaluation agreement included in this software media package.
>> If you do not agree to all these terms, promptly return the unused
>> software to Sun Microsystems, Inc."
>>
>> To actually read the full agreement, one must first open the shrinkwrap.
>> Which in turn means the agreement is already binding on you, because
>> you've opened the package. In other words, the only way to reject the
>> terms of Sun's EULA is to not read them.
>

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