==> A hush fell over the room when Jane Kelley said to Pat Winstanley <== 
 PW>  Nonsense! At least add a 'sometimes' or 'often' into the above
 PW>  sentence! :-))
 JK> Should have said, those in denial will use any excuse to dodge what is
 JK> unpleasant.  And those in denial will not chose easily to give up
 JK> whatever  substance(s) are being used to affect the brain and nervous
 JK> system. 
Isn't that the definition of denial, dear?
 JK> You would be surprised at just how convuluted the thinking is of folks
 JK> I  know who have several years of sobriety.  Those with 5 to 20 years. 
 JK> They  have more than one doctor, and will decide just what to share
 JK> with each one.  
Oh, sounds like they're not practicing the program of AA...which includes,
to the best of my knowledge, rigorous honesty.
 JK> He prefers to stay up late into the wee hours of the morning and then
 JK> sleep  most of the daylight hours.
 JK> But, he hasn't had a drink in over six years so he must, of course, be
 JK> sober.  
Well, Jane, he *is* sober.  As you, yourself, said, he hasn't had a drink
in over six years.  
What does eating animal fat have to do with sobriety?  
BTW, if you saw the latest issue of TIME magazine, the latest studies 
show absolutely no correlation between the amount of fat consumed and
the incidence of breast cancer.  You know, for a long time, it was 
believed that women who had a high fat diet had a higher incidence of
breast cancer.  The latest information is a correlation of world-wide
studies that took into account lifestyle, diet, etc.  Interesting, no?
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