Hi Greg!
-> The rules of this echo do not prohibit posts involving car audio.
Not at this moment, but if the Car Audio echo becomes a reality,
discussion here on that topic will be considered a duplication and
traffic on that refered to Car Audio.
-> Not that I mind the more intelligent messages about
-> producing/engineering/etc....I just think the snide remarks about
-> car audio are out of line.
Car Audio buffs may include audiophiles, but rarely does that seem the
case with a few exceptions the majority of the messages on that subject
here are inane at best. A quick scan of the last 1000 messages here will
show that to be the case. That's why I don't mind Car Audio taking that
discussion elsewhere, as there have been a number of regular
contributors and readers here getting tired of bass discussions to the
exclusion of anything else. I've taken a few snide and well deserved
comments at the car audio folks, too, without any guilt for doing so.
 You, Matt, and a few others are concerned with quality in addition to
LOUDNESS, but most discussion is still concerned with unhealthy sound
levels, at "who cares" distortion levels. Competition sound levels seem
to be more important than sound stage, cleanliness, quality of sound,
etc. I stress test major sound systems at far lower levels than these
monster cars, where fewer components and amps serve hundreds of people.
 I'm not impressed with the majority of "excellent" car sound systems at
all (except Matt's system which did much for a small investment and good
choices in components, which I have heard) and still believe that almost
any studio monitor in a fairly decent acoustical environment will do
much better.
 That may be my opinion, but I'll stand by it. Any peak over about
130dB is a total waste for any real world need. 162dB is the record??
There's a research facility that is designed to destroy materials in the
desert of Arizona that I think puts out 174dB. How many dB does it take
for a car to shake itself apart? Does anyone REALLY care? Sounds like
typical macho BS to me like having 2000 horsepower out of a VW bug. I'm
not impressed in the slightest. I'm suprised that anyone with any degree
of intelligence is.
Bonnie *:>
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