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to: Jeff Shultz
from: Adam Flinton
date: 2003-10-27 13:03:20
subject: Re: why George puts his foot in his mouth

From: Adam Flinton 

Jeff Shultz wrote:

> Adam Flinton wrote:
>
>>
>> Holding down an 8 day old baby & chopping off bits of it
is.......normal?
>>
>> Moral absolutism died during the Inquisition & the subsequent
>> Catholic-Protestant wars.
>>
>> To reprise:
>>
>> Do you accept Jesus Christ as the son of God, your Lord & saviour?
>>
>> If not then you are a blasphemer & are thus evil (& indeed can be
>> executed in a variety of manners unless you "recant your evil").
>>
>> People have this insane notion that moral relativism is a new thing.
>> It is as old as moral absolutism.
>>
>> Adam
>
>
> What does Christianity have to do with Talmudic law? If they'd bother to
> look, the requirement of circumcision died somewhere in ACTS.
>

Yup. However moral absolutism is something which has been consistently part
of the christian religion with the obvious example being the inquisition.

> And the only thing in the New Testament directly about executions is
> from a section that is of dubious authorship (and normally marked as
> such). It's hard to keep working on converting people after you kill
> them after all.
>

Maybe but you can still judge them on the basis of "moral
certainties" of which the only thing one knows is that the greatest of
all is love & love doesn't judge so by judging others you're actually
contradicting the main pillar of christianity.


> Oh - and try not to blame me for:
> 1. The actions of someone dead for 500 years now; and
> 2. Anything done by, for, or in the name of the Roman Catholic church.
>
> 'ta!
>
I'm not blaming. I am merely pointing out that whenever the church has
aimed for moral certainties it has always ended up judging others &
thus
  losing the central pillar of it's teaching.

Adam

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