Hi Bob,
-> HW> Further, consider what you have called 'evidence of something
-> HW> [someone?--HW] being trustworthy.' I submit that is a mistaken
-> HW> view. Take the case of your banker who {apparently} safeguards
-> HW> your funds. Would that be evidence. No, I submit, for lacking
-> HW> trust, you might well presume he--like any con artist-- is merely
-> HW> setting you up by acting honest/trustworthy.
-> Actually, I don't trust *any* banker. ;^)
->
-> I decided on my bank because it had already built a reputation, not
-> because I blindly trusted it first.
This is merely going on someone's word on the issue. That
merely introduces regress, but does not solve the problem
{how do the first customers decide whether to trust the back?}.
-> With personal relationships, you
-> take a small chance at first. When they prove themselves, then I
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
See 1)
-> extend trust that far, and take a slightly bigger chance, then extend
-> more trust if they prove trustworthy with the extra trust, on and on.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
See 2)
1) Unless you trust, they can't prove themselves.
So I disagree that you can be truly neutral, but "taking a small
chance." That would make impossible the accumulation of evidence.
2) All con-artists know of your gradualist scheme. Hence they,
in the beginning, ape trustworthiness--e.g. repay small debts,
or lose small bets and make good.
All this goes, in pholosphical terms to the problem of
empiricism: is there "data" *out there* ready to be collected,
or do we choose, select, and mold our data according to our theories.
I think you can see the parallel with the above issue of who to
trust.
Cheers, Hal.
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