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echo: educator
to: CHARLES BEAMS
from: MATT SMITH
date: 1997-02-22 22:34:00
subject: Re: Where We Stand

CB> MS>CB> Many people believe that getting tenure guarantees a teacher a 
CB> MS>CB> lifetime job, even if the teacher's subsequent performance is 
CB> lousy.
CB> 
CB> MS>I can refer you to "Thompson vs. Bd. of Education", the 
CB> MS>definitive tenure case in this state in which the state 
CB> MS>supreme court said just how lousy performance will be 
CB> MS>accepted before a tenured teacher can be fired.  (292 N.C. 
CB> MS>406 or 233 S.E.2d 538).  It is almost impossible to fire 
CB> MS>any tenured teacher pursuant to the standard in that case.
CB> 
CB> I can't think of too many reports that hold a North Carolina 
CB> education up as one of the better in the country, so I could guess 
CB> that the tenure system also stinks in your sate.  
    Tenure here is a frequent target of newspaper editors, state legislators, 
and talk show hosts.  (Yes, the state's schools generally stink, and the 
editors and politicians blame tenure.)
CB> earlier in this echo, there were nearly 200 teachers brought up on 
CB> tenure charges here in New York in 1995-96, most of whom are no 
CB> longer teaching.  
    Most fired tenured teachers here give up without appealing, but the 
appeals-court cases suggest that they'd have won if they appealed.  They seem 
to give up out of a (belated) realization that they really don't belong in a 
classroom.
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