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echo: locsysop
to: David Drummond
from: Paul Edwards
date: 1996-02-20 09:11:50
subject: USR Courier

PE>> Silly man.  You have been very quiet about naming a single 
PE>> terminal that behaves by adjusting baud rate after issuing 
PE>> an ATZ.  As quiet as Ian Smith and David Drummond in fact. 
PE>> 

DD>> We've gone quiet because we realise that there are none so 
DD>> blind as those who will not see.

PE> Ain't that the truth.  You can't see a SINGLE terminal that
PE> automatically adjusts baud rate after sending an ATZ.

DD> That's right - terminal software is supposed to be operated by a person 
DD> capable of logical thought.  

And modems are meant to work properly.

DD> This person is supposed to be able to read the 
DD> bit in the manual where it says to ensure the software and the modem are 
DD> set to the same speed.

Only if the modem doesn't auto-baud detect.  Or are you saying that
USRs don't auto-baud detect?  Well they DO auto-baud detect on some
commands, so there's the bug then, they auto-baud when they're not
meant to.  And there's the fucked design - they don't auto-baud.
You can't have it both ways.

DD> Name a termianl that answers the phone and communicates with the entity at 
DD> the other end.

A VT100 will do that fine.  You initialize the modem with ATZ,
and when you see the word "RING" on your screen, you can type
in "ATA" and it will answer.  Alternatively, you can have 
ATS0=1 as the default, go ATZ, and just wait till you see a
"CONNECT" on your screen.  Well, you can do all this if you have
a decent modem.

DD>> On a USR Courier, ATZ resotres ALL seetings stored in 
DD>> NVRAM. This includes the port speed.  Makes perfect sense 
DD>> to the rest of us . . .

PE> It makes perfect sense to change the baud rate to something 
PE> that you know damn well the terminal isn't running at?  Like 
PE> you said, there are none so blind...

DD> Then set the fucking thing to the same speed!  Are you stupid or something?

That is a workaround for a DESIGN FAULT/BUG with the autobaud.
I found that workaround before I even reported the bug.

DD>> Now tell me this:- Are you really interested in how to use 
DD>> the USR Courier modem, or are you only trying to win an 
DD>> arguement?

PE> I am interested in documenting a bug.  You and your cohorts 
PE> being zealots refused to even admit it was a bug. 

DD> A bug is something that happens contrary to documentation.  The resetting 
DD> of the modems settings to those stored in NVRAM with ATZ is definitely 
DD> documented.

And where does it say that the modem autobauds on all commands
EXCEPT ATZ?  And you are correct, if they did document that, 
then it WOULDN'T be a bug.  It would be a design fault.  I have
always been happy to admit that it could be a design fault rather
than a bug.  BFN.  Paul.
@EOT:

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