@@> From intercept between Hal White and Day Brown
 @@> on  "Revealing Truth"
 
 Hello Hal,
 
 HW> What do you make of Socrates' references to his daemon?
 
 DB> Greeks had the idea of the 'Muse', which was not a god, or an angel,
 DB> but a rather impersonal robotic force with no motive; .........
 
 HW> I had nothing devilish in mind. In the Republic, at 90a, it says
 
 HW> "As regards the most important part of our soul we must think this:
 HW> that a god has given it as a spirit (_daimon_) to each of us, that
 HW> which we say dwells in the top part of the body, to lift us from the
 HW> earth to its kindred in heaven, for we are not of earthly but of
 HW> divine nature."  quoted in Grube, _Plato's Thought_ p. 144.
 HW> In the Symposium, 202e
 
     Leafed through the "Symposium [202] ...seems a lot of effort
     expended in trying to formulate "in betweens" [Diotimas]. I
     would suppose that human thinking has some awkwardness in direct
     connects with super superiors.....?
 
 HW> "A very powerful spirit, Socrates, and spirits, you know, are
 HW> halfways between god and man.   ...They are the envoys and interpreter
 HW> that ply between heaven and earth, flying upward with our worship
 HW> and prayers, and descending with the heavenly answers and commandments."
 HW>  _Collected Dialogues_  (Bollingen, 1961)  See also the Timaeus at 41.
 HW>  This doesn't sound much like robots to me.
 
   Read [Timaeus 41 and 42]. Plato was as close to SciFi as an old
   Greek could get, he was just limited to the vocabulary of his time
   in making up and playing with custom life forms....
 
       "....they were to be sown in the instruments of time, severally
        adapted to them [42]......"      robotic packaging ???
 
         ..."the gods of a more retiring nature" had me stumped?
 
 The "heaven-man media" seems so pervasive as to be favored-to-find-favor
 by careful placement among our genes. Calling this a "robotic" element
 seems just updating the symbologies into our 20th century playpen (unless
 of course, the old symbols are to ring absolute literal in a very REAL
 God-Man interplay). Though we can tease the symbols around on a gameboard,
 I don't see any *present* means to take a serious measurement. In such of
 meantime, we are left to the (much denied) poetry of the genes ...a bent
 of notions to hear in comfort as kids growing up in relay to some unknown
 destiny of species (if any !).
 
                             @@> --- Dave
 
 P.S. Gave "Amos" his half hour! ..The imagination doesn't change.
      If transpoted into todays world, many of the OTers would be
      -darkish- fantasy fiction writers ....even to produce epic films-
      (the OT being an equivalent). Years ago when I read the bible
      through, it was all such a different cycle of documents-
      ......All then in the savor of religious feelings.....
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