20 Mar 12 13:00, mark lewis wrote to Roy Witt:

 ml>> ping sucks for diagnostics... use traceroute but understand that,
 ml>> like ping, not all systems will respond... traceroute will get you
 ml>> responses from systems in the path whereas ping doesn't and so
 ml>> doesn't give any idea where the breakage may be...

 RW>> Tracert sucks as well. It hanged somewhere in Tennesee when I was
 RW>> trying to figure out why I couldn't connect with 1:19/0.  He lives
 RW>> in Mississippi or western Alabama. (1:18/x territory)

 ml> like i said, we can only use the data that is passed back from the
 ml> requests...

And some that isn't passed back. The stuff that should be there, but is
missing.

 ml> i, too, did the traceroute game with roger a while back and then
 ml> things started working but only some systems give responses... then
 ml> you get some with circular loops going on which get reported to have
 ml> their routing fixed... then there's the ones with a lot of traffic
 ml> which drop some packets on life time expiry...

This is when you stop doing what you're doing and route around the
bastards...

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