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echo: philos
to: DAY BROWN
from: WILLIAM ELLIOT
date: 1998-04-24 05:49:00
subject: `Biological Consciousnes

 >>> Day Brown on "Biological Consciousnes 
 
 WE> Consciousness itself is one of the greatest enigmas of the  
 WE> ages.  Here's a riddle.  Is a dead person more  
 WE> unconsciousness than a person in dreamless sleep? 
 DB> Is there a difference between the DOS prompt and off? hmmm. 
Place a radio next to the computer and with the right tuning you can hear the 
computer, move data to and from the disk, be waiting for input or running a 
program.  Turn it off and you'll hear nothing.
 DB> It wasn't a cave he was in at the time, but he had *vowed* not to 
 DB> expose the original experience as a Mystai.  The temples built to 
 DB> Dionysus were unique- not built on some acropolis, or promontory, 
 DB> but like the one at Athens, is a low, dark, damp dale.  Why?  The 
 DB> sacred sites were originally glades where magic mushrooms were to 
 DB> be found; Hellas was still, in his time, extensively forested and 
 DB> good shroom habitat. 
Not at all surprising.  Unlikely details like these are included in history 
books.
 DB> Unlike the grand portico, tall collumnar and/or clearstoried hall 
 DB> to admit light on impressive staturary, his were small windowless 
 DB> buildings where any small crack in the door, would've cast images 
 DB> on the opposite wall of passersby...  ala camera obscura.  Stoned 
 DB> on Amanitas or the sacred Kykeion, an inevitable 'reel-ization'. 
Interesting surmise.  The cave is the skull from which you see the shadows?
If reality depends upon biochemical perceptions, then indeed, no matter what 
the chemistry, our reality is subjective to biochemistry, with or with any 
mushrooming notions.  Vertebrate reality is different than arboreal reality 
is different that moldy reality, is different that rocky reality.  As rocks 
contain little or no biochemistry, rocky reality is null.  Sedimentary 
reality null +.  In conclusion, there are no views of our consciousness out 
side of our own conscious view.
Here's an experiment.  Imagine you're a native, easy.  Imagine you're a dog 
or cat. not so hard.  Imagine you're a tree.  That's a problem, even the 
sense of time is different.  Imagine you're a rock.  That's an old age Zen 
Koan:  how do you think about nothing?
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