On 1/07/2016 9:01 AM, 1:153/757 wrote:

 BF>>    Sorry, no can do. By default everybody have reading access to every
 BF>> echo on my BBS. If I offer my computer resources to the fidonet
 BF>> community I fucking well think I have the right to decide what to do
 BF>> with those resources -- e.g. my BBS.

 AI> So you have decided that that we should/can not have a sysop only area to
 AI> communicate with each other?

Why would sysops need a special area to chat with each other? Are we elitist
snobs?

 AI> How very inconsiderate and dishonourable of you, but thanks for the
 AI> honesty.

Whose definition of honour? Fidonet is about communication. In my opinion it is
dishonourable to stifel that communication.

 BF>>    Except for (from the top of my head) two echoes where the moderators
 BF>> specifically asked me to limit even read access: FDBETA and FTSC.

 AI> It is not surprising that the FD beta team has a private area to discuss
the
 AI> development of FD, or that the FTSC members have a private area to discuss
 AI> FTSC matters. There are many other examples of such echoes as well.

But no chat echoes?

 BF>>    So keep on reading as much as you like. Here, as well as in all the
 BF>> other JamNNTPd servers around the world. Funny thing is that nobody of
 BF>> the Z1 bullies of yours seemed to notice that I didn't even have
 BF>> FIDO_SYSOP available here until the "brouhaha", but that you still
 BF>> posted comments made there in one of the echoes where you still know you
 BF>> have total read/write freedom -- this one.

 AI> Lee should have read and write access to most echoes but that doesn't mean
he
 AI> should have access to FN_SYSOP or FIDO_SYSOP. He should not have any
access
 AI> to those areas.

Why? They're just chat echoes.

 AI> Don't we also have the freedom to communicate between ourselves?

Only if we're elitist snobs.

You do have netmail access do you not?

 AI> No. You have taken that from us.

You have the freedom to communicate in netmail, just as Lee  (and others) have
the freedom to read chat echoes.

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Regards
David

E&OE

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