27 Mar 12 11:20, mark lewis wrote to Roy Witt:


 RW>>> One would think that any one of the ftn.z1 'managers' could read
 RW>>> a/the nodelist and add that info from it to a CNAME without
 RW>>> receiving a request to do it. ;)

 ml>> they cannot if the information is not there... consider the Z2 folk
 ml>> who fly the IBN (for instance) flag and do not have anything
 ml>> indicating their IP or domain name...

 RW>> That's a product of their ZC...as big an error as one can make in
 RW>> this day and age.

 ml> that is incorrect... the idea was in development years ago..

That's when I became aware of it in the instance of a ZC, Ward Dossche.

 ml> . i remember it being discussed when FTN-over-Telnet was coming up
 ml> and how to be able to indicate such capability in the nodelist...

Which Dossche was against.

 ml> this was back when the idea of using domain host names or ip numbers
 ml> in the "phone" field was being discussed...

Yeup. Follows is a netmail from Ward Dossche, when RIN-ION nodes were
first listed in Z1.

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 Msg  : #877 [832]                        Rcv Snt Pvt
 From : W{at}rd Dossche                2:292/854       24 May 02  18:10:17
 To   : Roy Witt                    1:10/22         27 May 02  14:30:36
 Subj : Re: Autoposting the rules.
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CC: Janis Kracht, Brenda Donovan

Original to RC10
Copies to ZC1 and 1:10/22

Dear Brenda,

It seems Roy Witt is operating a node with an "-unpublished-" entry in the
region-portion of region-10 of zone-1. That's under your jurisdiction.
This is, in fact, a "Pvt"-entry as it cannot be dialed.

According to FTS-0005 there cannot be a "Pvt"-entry in the region-segment,
this type of nodes always needs to be in a net-segment.

In my opinion Roy Witt has the following options available to him:

1) Look for a net that will have him and keep his current nodelist
   information save that the one maintaining that segment needs to add
   "Pvt" in front of this line;
2) He buys a modem, gets a pots-line for that modem and has the number
   listed;
3) He folds his node.

Do you have an opinion on this? Thank you.

Have a nice week-end,

 \%/{at}rd

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 ml>> the fidonet.net and now binkp.net stuff is specifically used by
 ml>> them and those wanting to contact them... this format was actually
 ml>> being discussed and implemented way back when FTN over telnet was
 ml>> widely used...

 RW>> I remember that and Ward's objection to listing ION nodes in the
 RW>> nodelist in the first place. That he continues this practice only
 RW>> serves to make people do such things as create fidonet.net and
 RW>> binkp.net workarounds. It's moronic to say the least.

 ml> on the one hand, possibly... on the other, not really... when Z2
 ml> allowed ISDN-only nodes into the nodelist, that set the precedent...

After Ward was finally convinced to do so by showing us his ignorance and
having to  change his mind about listing them.

 RW>>> And then browse each newly released nodediff to look for anything
 RW>>> that needs an update. Certainly someone with some programming
 RW>>> skills could write a utility to do that. ;)

 RW>>> It would certainly be a much better project than writing a weekly
 RW>>> newsletter that isn't very well received by the masses.

 ml>> hhehehehehe...

 RW>> BTW, on top of which she can't get the format right and it has no
 RW>> comparison to the quality of the Z2 version, even if it is empty.

 ml> seems that we are talking about two different publications... i see
 ml> your writing as relating to bj”rn... he has mad programming skillz,
 ml> too ;)

I see Bj”rn's as working as they should. OTH, I see Janis' as working some
of the time, but not all of the time.

Case in point is the misconfiguration of her version of Fidonews.


                R\%/itt


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