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echo: philos
to: FRANK MASINGILL
from: HAL WHITE
date: 1998-04-20 04:21:00
subject: Freud

Hi Frank,
-> EVERY scholar and scientist has antecedents.  Discrediting Freud is a
-> senseless, useless enterprise not worth the time spent on it.
   Agreed.
-> Nearly
-> all of his students broke with him.  The speculation that Freud
-> derived much of his notion of the unconsious from Nietzshe has been
-> advanced as a strong possibility but as far as I know it is STILL
-> only speculation. I've not seen ANY proof that Freud read a lot of
-> Nietzsche.
   Freud had read a little Nietzsche, enough to lead to F's
acknowledging N as a pioneer, re the unconscious.  Freud also explicitly
said { I don't have a ref handy} that he did NOT read much
Nietzsche, since he {F} did not wish to be influenced by him.
IOW F sensed how deep N was, but wanted to make his own discoveries.
-> It is certainly not out of the realm of possibility
-> because Nietzsche was a superb psychologist.  Trying to debunk Freud
-> is sort of like debunking the early Edison cylinder phonographs.
   Agreed.
   I think much of the debunking is because of F's use
of a hermeneutical approach to psychology, after his
original neural reductionism.
   Hal.
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