Ardith Hinton wrote to James Bradley, "Digging Deeper?" on 06-26-05 16:52

 JB>  Ya, variations on a theme for me. Same old story, different
 JB>  smell. 0-8

 AH>           Hmm.  So, assuming we're here on earth to learn
 AH> something, what is the theme??  For me I think it has to do
 AH> with communication & special needs....  :-)

Mine: Feces, and compost seems to cover it! 


 JB>  musical influences. (I'm deliberately keeping this fluffy.

 AH>  Seems appropriate, at least in the SURVIVOR echo....  :-)

 JB>  Don't sell this echo short. I just have phases where I
 JB>  dabble into dark waters, and others where I prefer a brook.


 AH>           No problem!  So do I, and I don't imagine we're alone in
 AH> that. What I meant was that a detailed discussion about any
 AH> particular type of music might be more appropriate

If you must know, my last lyric follows a piece of work who murders
 his X, and defiles her. You still want to got there? 

I just know my family worries about me. My song writing partners' wife
 was trying to set me up with friends, until I sent that little gem
 over the facsimile. ()-8*

I wonder if CESIS read it? 
 
 AH> elsewhere.  OTOH, if you've learned something from
 AH> listening to certain types of music which can be applied to
 AH> life in general it is on topic as far as I'm concerned.  SURVIVOR is a
 AH> forum where you can dabble into dark waters or not, as you wish.

Don't go there girlfriend! 

 AH> I'd like to think that's one of the strengths of the echo.
 AH> Maybe you weren't just sitting in the university library
 AH> listening to recordings of John Cage... maybe you didn't
 AH> just hire somebody to teach you how to play the style(s)
 AH> you were interested in, as a guy in our community band
 AH> does.  Maybe you have some other things to say but prefer
 AH> not to do it yet.  That's okay....  :-)

Well, like I say, my dark waters are a cold, ugly place. This
edumucated girlie I was talking about, was telling me about wearing
goggles when in unfamiliar waters, or however the saying goes. I
insisted I wear a wet suit, and make it a dry suit with full
re-breather if ya got it. Now you know why.

Now that I have disclosed the topic widely, there's no going back, is
there? I remember as a kid, I would see faces of missing, or murdered
girls/women, and I couldn't help but to think of the despicable acts
one 'human' can do such things to another. I mean, gorgeous looking
potential dates, and this horror-show has to accost his playthings?
What a horrid notion!

I thought this trait would make me a good murder investigator, until I
saw a show, where the cops had to consider another victim as an
exciting development. I think that was one of three times I lost my
apatite.



 JB>  I've heard some pretty amazing playback systems in my
 JB>  days, and yet... You really find out how inefficient
 JB>  they really are the more you learn about them.


 AH>           Uh-huh.  Some folks may not want to dig deeper,
 AH> though.  I'm told, for example, that one individual of my
 AH> acquaintance prefers the muddy sound of cheap equipment
 AH> because that's what she is used to.  I guess... like my
 AH> father & yours
 AH> ... she wants music to be safe & predictable.  For me it was a
 AH> revelation when I had better equipment available & heard things I
 AH> hadn't known were there.  It was even more of a revelation
 AH> when I became actively involved in live music....  :-)

Viva la difference!

My truest sounding system, was listened to at an Altec Lansing dealers
house. If you know anything about electronics Altec was concentrating
on efficient systems that run on Class A amplification. He just put
his tubes into a soft clipping as they went into Class B mode, and
used a three way cabinet, that used a bell shaped bezel, that was
really adept at 'tuning' the output. I'd love to be able to A-B that
system to some modern developments to see how it stands up.


 AH>  Same here.  I like Gilbert & Sullivan, though... [chuckle].
 JB>  They did The Mikado, right?
 AH>           Yes, and THE PIRATES OF PENZANCE....  :-)
 JB>  Wouldn't that be classified as opera-lite, or pop-opera?

 AH>           In my experience, it's generally referred to as
 AH> "operetta"... but your description also conveys the idea
 AH> quite efficiently.  :-)

It *does* make it tolerable to those who shy away from traditional
pieces. Sure a person can stomach La Trivi??? (Do you know the one I
mean?) But the build-up, and the denouement can be a long and winding
road.

I mean, there's a reason Bugs Bunny will be the most recognized Opera
 singer, because Disney chopped it into digestible pieces, and the
 whole thing was over in three to ninety minutes.


 AH>           I played "Pirates" twice, the second time as a
 AH> ringer in a high school production... my personal
 AH> favourite!  My favourite version of BYE BYE BIRDIE was done
 AH> by an amateur group which included a lot of teenagers too,
 AH> BTW.  They bring a kind of energy & enthusiasm to such a
 AH> show which, appropriately channeled, may be difficult for
 AH> more seasoned performers to match.  Anyway, one of the
 AH> things I like about G & S from the standpoint of a pit
 AH> musician is not having to decipher what the copyist
 AH> scribbled ten minutes before curtain time or whatever....
 AH> :-))

Ayayayaiy!!! Our HS band conductor was a hoot! We had a smokin' jazz
band under him, that the University kids were keen to hear. Museums,
Kiwanis invited us back to close their ceremonies with our wind
ensemble. Our percussion section was rather deep, and Doug new how to
showcase that. VERY exhilarating!

A synced Tymp, and Snare-drum parts, interspersed with BD,
 Cymbal... All at triple forte...  All sharing the same cadence with
 the rest of them... Ya, it still boils the juices today!

"I know it says 'fff', but I want to put an exclamation point after
 that. As a matter of fact, take your pencils out now, and... JUST
 LET IT RIP!!!"

I went straight through a Tymp head the day we started rehearsals in
 an exchange trip in PQ. Doug stopped the proceeding,
 "Drummer... Where were you?" Percussion, and him had a love-hate
 relationship. 

 AH>  You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink;
 AH>  You can lead a kid to learning, but you cannot make him think.

 JB>  I wonder if the masculine reference was by inclusion,
 JB>  or experience. 

 AH>           Ah... this bit of doggerel was composed years ago, when
 AH> schoolteachers were still expected to model formal grammar.
 AH>  IMHO the (male) poet was using the masculine pronoun as
 AH> the traditional "default" position.  And it seems to me the
 AH> same principle applies to females, although it may manifest
 AH> differently....  :-)

I'd never heard the 'hid to learning' part before. I suspect that too
was written before these PC days.  "You must say 'them!'" 

 



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