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to: Brandt Everett
from: Phil Crown
date: 1996-07-23 13:11:12
subject: Watcom to make PM apps

-=> Quoting Brandt Everett to Phil Crown <=- 

 BE> RE: Watcom to make PM apps
 BE> BY: Phil Crown to Brandt Everett on Fri Jul 19 1996 13:30:00
 
 > btw, OCL120.ZIP (OS/2 Class Library by Cubus) supports Watcom, and *all*
 > the major compilers and EMX/GCC (and is free with full source).

 BE> Yeah I got your e-mail a while ago ans still haven't looked at it yet.

 BE> What do you think of them?

I looked at Borland's OWL, YACL, ObjectPM by Secant (demos, source, and
.inf file since there's not evaluation copy), IBM' Open Class Libary,
and OS/2 Class Library by Cubus (OCL).  And one other called Zapp or
Zinc, I only looked at its price $400 or more if I remeber correctly,
its looks like a high-end commercial cross-platform library.

I like OCL best of all because its fast, small, and free with source.
Its not as full featured as IBM's Open Class, but it has more OS/2
specific features than OWL and YACL such as WC_CONTAINER and WC_NOTEBOOK
style windows.  OCL also supports *all* the major OS/2 compilers,
Borland, EMX/GCC, Metaware, IBM, and Watcom, did I leave one out?

The downside of OCL is the docs, there virtually are none.  OCL.INF
consists of a few notes about compilers and a history of the product.
The "documentation" is nothing more the the source code itself in .INF
format. :-)

I'd probably like ObjectPM the best, its also small (compared to IBM)
and fast and has more features than Cubus' OCL, but its commercial
product for $235 and with the source its $750 according to Secant's Home
Page, but there is no evaluation copy, though there is supposed to be on
Devcon 11.  Indellible Blue's Summer Catalog list Secant's Object PM for
$210 and $359 w/ source, but according to Nick Knight Indellible can't
sell the source code, so that is a mistake.

Also, since I'm learning C++, I like being able to look at the source
code to see how things work.

The author of OCL, Benjamin Stein, says that version v1.30 "is in
progress" and "it should be ready for shipping very soon."  I just
received this information today.

There is one annoying bug in OCL, that if you use Alt+F4 to close a
dialog window (or any child window with a system menu), for example, the
app will loose focus and the Alt-Esc loop will never return to it.
Strange, but its supposed to be fixed already in the v1.30 beta.

The mailing list for OCL is oclnews{at}ibm.net.

Phil - Fido:  1:124/8014.0 | Internet:  phil.crown{at}bluecafe.com

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