DM> .....Plato seems not my cup of tea ........most more likely to have had
 DM> "Gorgias" as comrade! .....but you may have already noticed that
   Well, (grin), you read it - or at least (chuckle) I THINK you read it.
Your review was more about what David thinks than about what Plato-Socrates 
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the characters Gorgias, stooge Polus and principal Callicles thought.  You
seem to have missed the deadliness (murder) in the conflict as Callicles 
arns
Socrates of what actually has already happened to him if he does not "mend 
is
ways" and join in the conspiracy of the canaille like Callicles who only say
things "conventionlly" but do not mean what they say (only rhetoric).  You
also do not mention the point that Callicles is INDIGNANT that anybody should
use rhetoric or any of the arts to CONVICT THEMSELVES of wrong and injustice
even though they might clearly be in that condition (conscience).  Nor did 
ou
seem to be interested in the appeal to conscience in the myth of the
judgement.  BTW, in your comparisons with the later Christian gospels it
surprises me that this myth of the judgement was not compared with the 
lassic
one in which Jesus is made to say, "depart from me, I never knew you to the
goats who throught they were sheep."  
   But you DID read it.  What more can I say.
   I remain disposed, many times, to divide the world of people into the
Socraties and the Callicratics.  As Voegelin remarks, Socrates had warned in
the earlier Platonic accounts of the trial and execution of Socrates that
"others will come."  In the Gorgias, "others" have come and the debate
continues in all of its deadliness.  I hope you noted that.
Sincerely, 
                                     Frank
                                                                              
                                                       
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