RW>  RB> DB> I wasn't directing the responsibility issue specifically at 
you, 
 RW> Tom. 
 RW>  RB> DB>  Its just that every time I hear that word, its usually coming 
 RW> from  
 RW>  RB> DB> someone attempting toforce their values upon someone else.  
 RW>  RB> DB> Responsibility, to me, is a two way street. The (our) system 
 RW> demands  
 RW>  RB> I find that most people who preach about personal responsibility 
and 
 RW>  RB> self-reliance are the same ones who went to college on dad's bill, 
 RW> never 
 RW>  RB> held a job, etc etc.
 RW> BR> Once again, a glittering generality, devoid of anything
 RW> BR> resembling statistical  validity or even a sophomoric
 RW> BR> attempt at statistical support. 
 RW> If you step back a little and look you will see that he
 RW> never even tried to say that.  He clearly states it as
 RW> a personal observation/opinion by starting out with "I
 RW> find that. . ."
Mebbeso - I have become accustomed to his viewpoint appearing to be that what 
he finds is all that is valid or real and those of us who have other opinions 
are idiots unworthy of discussion.
 RW> I agree with you.  I find that the people who push
 RW> personal responsibility and self-reliance are people
 RW> who have callouses on their hands.  The ones who talk
 RW> about public responsibility and helping the
 RW> disadvantaged are the ones with callouses on their
 RW> a$$es.
From my observation, this is mostly true.  There are exceptions - but those 
exceptions don't stand up shouting about their nobility - instead, they're 
too busy helping others to call attention to themselves. 
 RW> BTW, that is nothing more then a personal
 RW> observation/opinion.  
As is the case with various orifices, we all come so equipped.
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