KN> On 03-23-97 MICHAEL DOYLE wrote to KENNETH NEWMAN...
KN> MD> It is my firm believe that the many insults flung about cyberspace
KN> MD> would
KN> MD> never occur in face-to-face discussions,  What ever happened to
KN> MD> ettiquette, decorum, and politeness?
KN>        I was going to ask you that, Michael. Seriously, you know
KN>        better than to be caught up in this game with Steve and I
KN>        expect the both of you to cut it out.
Well, you're right, of course.  Consider it done, sir.
KN>        The George and Ruth band was my favourite incarnation.
KN>        The time I saw them at UMBC in Catonsville, Maryland in
KN>        1974 (10th anniversary tour) was probably the best
KN>        concert I've ever been to.
I saw them on that same tour in Pittsburgh.  Unfortunately, it was in a
gymnasium and the air got oxygen depleted pretty quickly; in a word, it
was stifleling.  It was rather hard to enjoy the concert under such
conditions, and I was never so glad to get out a a concert in my life
(excpet for maybe the Watkins Glen Greatful Dead/Alman Bros./whoever
else was there 600,000plus people fiasco in, ah, 73, 74?).
KN> MD> IMHO, Zappa was as much or perhaps even more of a comedic
KN> MD> genius than a musical one.
KN>        I never really liked his comedy, not after puberty,
KN>        anyway. Too peurile for my tastes, I guess, and perhaps a
KN>        might too shallow. And mean.
IMHO, his humour took on a decidedly humourless quality with "Joe's
Garage, acts 2 & 3."  But the earlier stuff, such as "Overnight
Sensation,"  was classic, even if it was very male and adolescent.
KN>  But I groove on the straight
KN>        music, especially the more jazz influenced stuff.
Which included a lot of non-verbal musical jokes.
KN> MD> Zappa started a lot of good people off: Ponty, George Duke, Adrian
KN> MD> Belew, Steve Vai, .............
KN>        Well, Ponty had already made it in France and Switzerland
KN>        and was well on the way to a solid jazz career in the US
KN>        (with Duke as sideman, btw) when he joined up with Zappa,
KN>        mainly because Sugarcane Harris wasn't into doing too
KN>        much more with Zappa (which is kind of a shame, it would
KN>        have been cool if Harris had joined as a full member,
KN>        IMO, but then again, I'm a big Sugarcae fan). Duke had a
KN>        respectable if unamazing jazz career. I have a solo album
KN>        he did before joining Zappa and it's a decent, solid
KN>        album As for Belew, he was in Bowie's touring band before
KN>        Frank and was well on his way to being the hot young
KN>        guitarist of the moment regardless of what he did with
KN>        Zappa.
Ah, so perhaps he may have actually slowed them down, HINDERED them
then.
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