On 4/5/97, George Erdner grokked "Prog. Rock defns.", and said to Scott R. 
Godin: 
  SRG> Sooooo where did you get the idea that we ONLY wanted to talk about
  SRG> the m and not the people who MAKE the music?
 
  GE> You are the one who asked if we could get back to discussing the
  GE> music. (see above). Given that I was discussing music in the first
  GE> place, and catching heat because the music I thought sounded like
  GE> Prog-Rock wasn't recorded by musicians you regard as qualified to make
  GE> Prog-Rock, I thought it best to limit my comments to talking about
  GE> MUSIC, not fan club issues. If I wanted to talk about fan club stuff,
  GE> I'd go to the Tiger Beat echo.
Well as long as we are now separating the MUSIC from the MUSICIANS why don't 
we also just separate them from their INSTRUMENTS and talk about them too? 
  SRG> Have you heard the Great Deceiver Box set yet? If not it is a
  SRG> definite mu have for Crimso fans. Some incredible live moments.
  SRG> 
  GE> No, I have not heard it yet. I am reluctant to fork over cash for
  GE> something I haven't heard, so until I hear someone else's copy, I
  GE> don't plan to buy my own.
THAT is what this echo is for. 
  MD> Are you going to go see the reformed Yes on tour this summer?
  GE> No.
  SRG> WHY NOT?
  GE> Because they aren't scheduled to appear at a venue that is within
  GE> close geographic proximity to where I am. And besides, I thought yo
  GE> wanted to discuss music, not musicians.
  GE> 
  SRG> Ummmmmmmmmmm pardon me for living, but aren't these musicians going
  SRG> to MAKE MUSIC while they are touring?????
  SRG> 
  GE> Of course they are, but you didn't ask about that. You asked if I was
  GE> going to SEE them. As to their making music, I've been disappointed at
Yes, going to see them MAKE MUSIC. I thought that was understood. I wouldn't 
expect you'd take time out from your busy schedule to go watch them eat 
biscuits at a local diner. 
  GE> too many live concerts of Prog-Rock artists to get real enthused about
Gentle Giant Live. Magma Live. King Crimson live. Music is a performance art. 
THese three bands IMHO have some of the most impressive live music recorded, 
especially when you consider the difficulty of pulling off some of this music 
in a live situation. I heard snatches of _Live Hhai_ off of a tape sampling 
someone sent me and LOVED it. THEN I heard the cheering at the end and 
realized it was _LIVE_... I became impressed. 
  GE> experiencing them in person. Your basic three-chord headbanger bands
  GE> sound about the same in stage as in the studio. Progressive artists
which is why I don't listen to the radio much anymore, and why I spend time 
hanging in here.. 
  GE> seem to have a more difficult time replicating studio overdubs and
  GE> effects on stage. Because too many of the people who made up Gentle
  GE> Giant have retire from music. But what does that have to do with
  GE> discussing the MUSIC
I don't understand why having the members of Gentle Giant retire from the 
music scene shouyld cause such difficulties for other live bands to pull off 
their music convincingly in a live venue. 
  SRG> SO what's to stop them from re-forming? There have been plenty of
  SRG> artists have come out of seclusion in the last 10 years to produce
  SRG> another album.
  SRG> 
  GE> Unfortunately, there hasn't been too much good music produced by
  GE> artists who've been in seclusion for a decade.
Donald Fagen.
 
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