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echo: pol_disorder
to: Earl Croasmun
from: Ed Hulett
date: 2009-01-26 18:45:04
subject: Double-Secret Probation?

Earl Croasmun -> Ross Cassell wrote:
 SH>>> banned by the echo rules.  OK.  So I tell the idiot to fuck
 EC> off.  Then
 SH>>> Casssell bans me for flaming, which I have just been told by the
 SH>>> co-moderator is not against the rules.

 ~>> I banned you for continuing your "Fuck Off" campaign
against Sauer,
 EC> after
 ~>> having warned you once about it before and you having acknowledged that
 ~>> warning. Every echo you come into in which Sauer is also a user of,
 EC> does not
 ~>> have to be your personal battelground to fight him in or on.

 EC> You also referenced his post to Ceppa.  Since it cannot be the
"no cussing"
 EC> rule (it didn't exist yet!), was there a rule that Stan cannot insult Dan
 EC> and Otto because he has insulted them elsewhere?  Does that go both
 EC> directions?  He did not import a specific thread or issue from another
 EC> echo, which is what your 1/20/09 warning seemed to relate to.  And then you
 EC> followed that up with advising that Stan not engage Otto in any posts
 EC> without advising Otto of the same.

 EC> Now take a look at the Sauer post to Ceppa that Stan was responding to.  He
 EC> accuses Stan of acting in a "knee-jerk" fashion by
defending the Catholic
 EC> Church against charges of "molesting priests."  Why? 
"Naturally," simply
 EC> because he is Catholic.  And he accuses Ed of defending Mormons on all
 EC> matters "no matter how silly," simply because of being a Mormon.

 EC> So if I am following you on this, you are defending the position that Dan
 EC> and Sauer were NOT attacking anyone's religion in a direct manner so as to
 EC> offend or agitate?  And you believe that the Sauer comments about Ed and
 EC> Stan have no basis at all in any desire Sauer might have to use the echo as
 EC> a battleground against them?

 EC> [As a sidenote, WHERE WAS this defense of molesting priests that Sauer
 EC> spoke of?  In what thread did Stan make any such defense?  Sure looks like
 EC> a "battleground" comment based on Sauer's pre-existing animosity.]

 EC> But you believe that Stan's responses to Dan and to Sauer, responses to
 EC> what they ACTUALLY DID SAY in that echo, were based in matters outside the
 EC> echo?  I'd really like to figure this out before I post much in there.
 EC> Looks tricky.

This should be interesting.

Ed

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