->  WC> HP makes a very good computer for those that don't care to tinker
->  WC> and want an out of box solution but for the likes of us it
->  WC> pretty much sucks.

-> Yeah,  and they're too close-mouthed about any of the technical aspects of
-> things,  and too ready to make stuff proprietary,  when there are
"standard"
-> ways of doing things.

Give me a break. HP(now HP-Compaq in the Computer Field) is in the
Business to MAKE MONEY and the name of the Game is Buy/Use/Throw Away. I
realize us 1% expect more but Reality and Common Sense says GO ELSEWHERE
and quit Carping about something you have No Control over at all.
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