FR>> 2) most prison inmates in the United States prison system are
FR>> Christians?  And that there are extremely few atheists in prison?
rm>> I was not aware of that.  Why do you think that is?
FR> During the research I did for a newsletter, I got to talk to a
FR> number of prison officials.
rm> Could you throw a reasonable guesstimate at me?
A guess about what, specifically?  As to why atheists are under-represented
by number and percentage in the prison system?  Or a guess as to what
percentage atheists are in the prison system?
FR> The most reasonable explanation I got for this fact was one warden's
FR> sugggestion that since most offenses are drug related and atheists
FR> perfer their reality straight up, the prison system ends up filled
FR> with people who need to use drugs.
rm> It sounds reasonable, perhaps quite logical, but what were some
rm> of the other explanations you got that you did not consider that
rm> "reasonable"?  I ask this because one person's non-reason can be
rm> another's reason,... never know.
Few prison officals were willing to offer an opinion.  The one I offered
above is included in my report since it made the most sense.  Of the rest
who did offer their opinions, they included the possibility that religion
is the result of poor education which is likewise the result of poverty.
Poverty drives people to steal -- but so does wealth; it's just that those
with the money can buy their way out of prison.
Since most criminals are in for drug offenses, however, I retained that
reason as the most probable for the most number of inmates.
FR> That still doesn't account for the lack of nearly any atheist in
FR> prison. The prisons should contain anywhere from 18% to 22%
FR> atheists since they "service" a populace comprised of anywhere
FR> from 18% to 22% atheists.
rm> I am sure there must be some atheists in prison.  How extensive
rm> was your research?  Please be specific and detailed.
I can forward to you a copy of Green Pastures issue number 017 if you
like.  Since it's lengthy (it contains mail from Christian and Jewish
"outreach" organizations) I could post only extracta here.  Yet I would
be happy to forward it to any FidoNet or Internet address you offer,
complete and in HTML format.
FR> religious "needs."  The data isn't the result of some "study"
FR> where a small percentage of the already-in-prison populace is
FR> asked what their occultism is, if any...  It's information written
FR> onto forms at the time of incarceration.
rm> I understand.  Should we not, then find other ways to get more data?
The only way to determine whether someone is Jewish, Buddhist, Christian,
Islamic, et al. is to _ask_ them.  I can think of no more accurate
method for accumulating such information.
rm> I mean, you have a theory that theists either are the only ones that
rm> resort to crime, or that theists are not as smart as atheists.
No, I don't.  I don't know where you came up with that.
There's no "theory," no "study," no "hypotheist," or anything else other
than the fact that atheists are vastly under-represented in the American
prison system.  While it's true that I suggested it was possible that
atheists either don't committ crimes else are smarter than theists, I don't
want to be misconstrued as holding forth on that; I would rather point out
the facts of the matter and observe how theists react.
rm> In order to support a theory one MUST try to discredit that theory.
rm> The repeated failure to do so provides support, BUT only if one
rm> continues to try discrediting the theory, right?
Quite correct...  if I were advancing a theory I would provide along side
of it a series of falsification tests which could discredit it.  Since I'm
advancing no theories about the fact of prison inmate geographics, I have
not attempted to provide such a list.
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