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to: Paul Edwards
from: Bob Lawrence
date: 1997-05-18 19:10:08
subject: UUPC

BL> 500K? Of source? Bloody hell! What's it do, besides Telix and
 BL> zip? Can if cook a baked dinner?

 PE> How big do you think the Telix + zip source code come to in
 PE> total?

  I dunno, but uucico.exe is 40K and compress.exe is 17K. I'd guess
that the source is about half that... 28K total.

 PE> Taylor UUCP uses g-protocol (which I think is standard), but it
 PE> ALSO has Zmodem plus a slew of others.

  I have no affection for zmodem... it just happened to be there. It's
a totally brain-dead protocol in 1997 with error correcting modems
runnign at high speed.

  If I ever get my fxuucico script right, and you can recognise my
password, I'll try the various g-enhancements in fxuucico. This all
seems rather simple, actually. I really don't know how they do it for
the price.

 PE> Well, you said that SPUG didn't have what you were looking for,
 PE> but I think it is more likely that you didn't get the filename
 PE> right. I posted some examples of correct filenames. 

  Trust me, I'm an engineer. I can read 8-character names. It's those
tricky 9-character ones that get me.

 PE> They were more examples of correct filenames you should have
 PE> looked for on SPUG.

  I did a search on 'ucp' and found a whole lot of shit (none of it
uupc, btw), but I've got all I need now (fxuucico and compress.exe).

  I don't know why you don't do it the same way as me... get a public
domain zmodem and zip for the Internet, compile it for Unix, and do
the rest yourself. 

 BL> 2. UUPC has is own archiver designed for Unix (not zip)

 PE> I think that if you try hard enough, you can use zip etc, but
 PE> the only thing that can easily be done is use the "compress"
 PE> format. 

  You can't use zip... trust me on this, COMPRESS (gzip) is totally
different. You're probably confused by some unzippers that recognise
the file headers and adjust accordingly. In fact, compress is pathetic
but I've got PD software that not only does the job but it handles the
loony 12-byte header as well. I found it in a gateway package called
gigo. The source for it is on your legendary Simtel (K-Tel?) CD under
the name of COMP430S.ZIP. If you find it, I'd like to FREQ it from
you... if the file name is not too complicated for me to understand.

 BL> If drosebay.z is the format you will send me, 

 PE> Yes, I am of the understanding that my system will be sending
 PE> exactly the same format (of course this is really what I'm
 PE> after confirmation of). I wasn't dead sure exactly what I was
 PE> sending to you, all I knew was that there was something queued
 PE> up in a directory for you.

  Actually, you sent me nothing. It stalled at the password and then
timed out. Jeezuz... haven't you got a log? Even *I've* got a log! Do
you have my password in there? The lower-case password I used with you
on Fido. I tried everything I could think of but nothing worked.

... later!

  AHA!!! I'm pretty sure I've worked it out now. I misunderstood the
format of the scripts in fxuucico. I expect to logon successfully at
8pm tonight (Sunday). I might even send you an insulting message to
see if I can upload, and to check that I can insult people on the
Internet successfully.

 BL> 3. What remains is a way to dial you up and log on, and the
 BL> format of whatever I send you to tell you whether I want a
 BL> download or an upload or freq. Does UUCICO do that? 

 PE> It should do all that.

  It seems too good to be true. According to the manual, it does it
all automatically! We shall see... roll on 2000 hours.

Regards,
Bob
  
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