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echo: guns
to: RICH WILLBANKS
from: TURIYAN GOLD
date: 1996-06-23 02:24:00
subject: Re: Kevlar vests

::To:Rich From:Wyatt Subject:Kevlar vests -Turiyan is always right.
06-12-96  19:03
 JP>Would you clarify this, please?  Are you talking about a kevlar bullet
 JP>resistant vest that ALSO protects against edged weapons, or a vest
 JP>designed to protect ONLY against edged weapons?
 
 WD> A Kevlar vest with the trauma plate will stop an edged
 WD> weapon there are level 4 kevlar vest with ceramic rifle
 WD> plates that will stop a 166gr 30-06 armour percing bullet
 WD> at 2800fps. so I guess that our rifle bullets are safe
 WD> from the terrorist bill.  I fully expect to be told that
 WD> I'm full of crap.
No.
 RW> True but...The only bullet resistent vest I have seen
 RW> only offer plates for the chest/heart area.  Therefore
 RW> it offers very little protection from edged or point
 RW> weapons.  Also a vest with a trauma plate it a pain to
 RW> wear and is next to, if not, impossible to wear
 RW> concealed.
_Silent Partners_ makes puncture proof (icepick, knife vest options.)
 RW> Then you have the fact that you can be killed even if
 RW> the plate stops the bullet.  The energy of the round is
 RW> transferred and a hard blow to the chest can stop the
 RW> heart.  AFAIK, this has never happened but it IS a
 RW> possibility.
I have heard conflicing storys of the blunt-trauma heart stop theorys
from "experts" with degrees.
Heck, guys like Fackler think a .41 Magnum JHP is only effective in
doing damage to the body when shots to the head or heart are involved.
He may be able to push that kind of garbage down the throats of the
rookies at the FBI _Wound ballistics 101_ class, but I'm not inclined
to such moronisms.
(yelling) PS, Will the guy that posted that military plane application
repost it to me netmail, or on a fairly anything goes area like
_Controvercial_?  I found it interesting.
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