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echo: 60s_70s_progrock
to: DAVID MARHEINE
from: GEORGE ERDNER
date: 1997-03-31 00:01:00
subject: Re: BJ Copeland

DM>  DM> Now if Mr. BJ were to pump his paean to onanism, "Captain Jack", up
DM>  DM> into a concept album-cum Broadway musical, maybe he'd earn a little
DM>  DM> more Prog credibility.
DM>  GE> With whom does Billy Joel need to "earn" Prog credibility? The
DM>  GE> Prog-Rock Police?
DM> As to BJ, does he "need" to earn ANYTHING?
I don't know. You're the one who brought up the issue of him earning
more Prog credibility.
DM>  GE> Regardless of how non-Prog the vast majority of his catalog is, the
DM>  GE> songs "Ballad of Billy the Kid" and, to a lesser degree "Captain 
ack
DM>  GE> SOUND as much like Prog-Rock songs as most of the music created by
DM>  GE> "certified" Prog-Rock bands like Gentle Giant and Yes.
DM> "Most"?  Even though I kinda like "CJ", I don't see it.  But I'll take
DM> your word on the Billy The Kid song and assume it sounds like a cross
DM> between "Hoedown" and "The Sheriff" from _Trilogy_...
It's a little more down tempo than those two. The sound is closer to
Copeland's "Grand Canyon Suite" than to the uptempo "Hoedown".
DM>  GE> If you go strictly by the sound of the songs, and forget about
DM>  GE> mythical "Prog credibility", "The Ballad of Billy the Kid" comes 
uch
DM>  GE> closer to the definition of Prog-Rock than "I've Seen All Good 
eople
DM>  GE> by Yes.
DM> On the other hand, sincerity and credibility are difficult to quantify,
DM> but they're arguably among the more important ingredients an artist
DM> can bring to a piece of music.  But the "punk" and "metal" communities
DM> seem to be much more hung up on whether somebody is a "True" whatever
DM> or merely a "Poser".
Then you weren't here when I was taken to task by pretty much everybody
for posting a list of albums that contained songs that I thought sounded
like Prog-Rock that were created by artists who don't specialize in
Prog-Rock.
DM>  GE> There's so little Prog-Rock out there in the first place, why does
DM>  GE> everyone reject discussion of Prog-Rock songs by artists who don't
DM>  GE> limit themselves to that genre exclusively, yet embrace discussion 
f
DM>  GE> artists who only do Prog-Rock but that no one has ever heard of 
much
DM>  GE> less heard)?
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