From: "Rich" 

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   Try unplugging the network cable.  It's more effective than null =
routes.  No connection to spider solitaire either way.

Rich

  "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:459812ff$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  When I removed the routes I didn't believe they had anything to do =
with=20
  solitaire, when shortly after removing the routes solitaire and =
network=20
  properties started working again *then* I made the connection.

  Geo.

  "Rich"  wrote in message news:45980fc4$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      "I didn't believe the null routes had anything to do with =
solitaire"

  Bullshit.  You claimed exactly this.  Even after your reply below you =
agreed=20
  with mike miller's bullshit FUD where he makes even more outlandish =
claims.

      "I didn't capture any network activity"

  Even more evidence that the null routes have no relevance as with no =
network=20
  activity the routes have no effect.

  Rich

    "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:45980a53$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    I didn't capture any network activity, I didn't believe the null =
routes=20
  had
    anything to do with solitaire, I though it MIGHT have something to =
do with
    the high def video problem that I was working on (maybe it was =
trying to
    download a codec or something, I was guessing). When solitaire and =
network
    properties started working again I was taken totally by surprise. I =
never
    suspected those problems were related to the null routes.

    I'm currently running a test to see if I can reproduce it.

    Geo.

    "Rich"  wrote in message news:45975094$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       Doesn't sound convincing.  What network traffic did you capture =
while
    solitaire was starting?  There is absolutely no activity when I =
start it=20
  on
    my machine.

    Rich

      "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:459735b4$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      No error message, I would click on it and get the spinning donut =
(what=20
  the
      hell is that supposed to be anyway, the hourglass signifies time =
but a
      spinning psychedelic donut?) then that would end and nothing would =

  happen.
      No errors in event log, nothing. Same with right clicking on
      network/properties, spinning donut then nothing. I telneted to my=20
  router,
      removed the routes and within a couple minutes both worked again. =
No
    reboot,
      no nothing happened on the laptop.

      Prior to this I had tried rebooting several times, didn't help, =
but once=20
  I
      removed the null routes then it started working again.

      Geo.

      "Rich"  wrote in message news:45972cf9{at}w3.nls.net...
         "Wasn't able to play spider solitaire" how?  What was the error
    message?

      Rich

        "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:45971e6d{at}w3.nls.net...
        So I had blocked vista from talking to MS for the past few days =
via a
      series
        of null routes in my router. Today I wasn't able to play spider
    solitare,
        removed the routes and a minute later solitare starts up no =
problem.

        You know, I'm really starting to hate this dumb OS.

        Geo.

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   Try
unplugging the network =

cable.  It's more effective than null routes.  No
connection = to spider=20
solitaire either way.
 
Rich
 

  "Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote=20
  in message news:459812ff$1{at}w3.nls.net...When=20
  I removed the routes I didn't believe they had anything to do with=20
  solitaire, when shortly after removing the routes solitaire and =
network=20
  properties started working again *then* I made the=20
  connection.Geo."Rich"
<{at}> wrote in message news:45980fc4$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
   =20
  "I didn't believe the null routes had anything to do with=20
  solitaire"Bullshit.  You claimed
exactly this.  Even =
after=20
  your reply below you agreed with mike miller's bullshit FUD where =
he makes=20
  even more outlandish
claims.    "I didn't =
capture any=20
  network activity"Even more evidence that the
null routes have =
no=20
  relevance as with no network activity the routes have no=20
  effect.Rich 
"Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote in =
message news:45980a53$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
 =20
  I didn't capture any network activity, I didn't believe the null =
routes=20
  had  anything to do with solitaire, I though
it MIGHT =
have=20
  something to do with  the high def video problem that I was =
working=20
  on (maybe it was trying to  download a codec or something, I =
was=20
  guessing). When solitaire and network  properties started =
working=20
  again I was taken totally by surprise. I never  suspected =
those=20
  problems were related to the null routes. 
I'm currently =
running=20
  a test to see if I can reproduce it. 
Geo.  =
"Rich"=20
  <{at}> wrote in message news:45975094$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
    =20
  Doesn't sound convincing.  What network traffic did you capture=20
  while  solitaire was starting?  There is
absolutely no =
activity=20
  when I start it on  my
machine. =20
  Rich    "Geo."
<georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote in =
message news:459735b4$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
   =20
  No error message, I would click on it and get the spinning donut (what =

  the    hell is that
supposed to be anyway, the=20
  hourglass signifies time but a    spinning =
psychedelic=20
  donut?) then that would end and nothing would=20
  happen.    No errors in
event log, nothing. =
Same with=20
  right clicking on   
network/properties, spinning =
donut=20
  then nothing. I telneted to my
router,    =
removed the=20
  routes and within a couple minutes both worked again. No =20
  reboot,    no nothing happened on the=20
  laptop.    Prior to this I
had tried rebooting =
several=20
  times, didn't help, but once
I    removed the =
null=20
  routes then it started working
again.   =20
  Geo.    "Rich"
<{at}> wrote in message news:45972cf9{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p;     =20
  "Wasn't able to play spider solitaire" how?  What was the =
error =20
  message?    =
Rich     =20
  "Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
=
wrote in=20
  message news:45971e6d{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p;    =20
  So I had blocked vista from talking to MS for the past few days via=20
  a   
series      of =
null=20
  routes in my router. Today I wasn't able to play spider =20
  solitare,     
removed the routes and a =
minute=20
  later solitare starts up no =
problem.      You=20
  know, I'm really starting to hate this dumb=20
  OS.      =
Geo.

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