@@> On Apr-13-98 William Elliot wrote to David Martorana
 @@> on "Biological Morality"
 
 DM>>> We are actually addressing an "ONLY-PHYSICAL" basis of being!?.
 
 WE>>  Consciousness is counter example.
 
 DM>> As "consciousness" is presently unexplained and *not* known to
 DM>> exist beyond its fleshy container, your "counter example"
 DM>> comment is beyond my understanding to be your response.
 
 WE> What are you saying?  If it's merely human, it's not real?
 
     Sorry my explanation was unclear....... What I meant was that
     "merely human" consciousness is physical ...(likely) of no more
     meaning (though more interesting) than any other organ talents.
     Whatever specialized functions it was developed to satisfy, there
     is no information in my database to indicate an any  "MORE-OR-LESS-
     OF-IT. I "think" our differences are (perhaps) those of how we
     measure it's IMPORTANCE. Your yardstick (seems so?) indicates a
     value for consciousness that my yardstick is not yet long enough
     to measure. I enjoy consciousness, and wonder about it.  You do
     the same but add other more epic extensions of meaning/importance
     to it. I have no wish to assume what you think, beyond hoping to use
     such speculations to clarify position/views. If wrong, I'm sure
     you will so advise!  Consciousness is some fuzzy for me to nail
     down, but as I said originally, it does not "knowingly" exist
     beyond the life of its container, and so would suggest reasonable
     assumptions. If you have other exhibits of evidence, or good reasoning,
     for a MORE-OF-IT, my attention is lively.
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                                             |.....@@>--- Dave
 
     P.S. I very much enjoy speculation so long as we BOTH know
          the stage.
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