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RC> Nowhere in the platform you quoted are members of the party
RC> required to ban/oppose those who disagree with the
RC> platform.
RP> It doesn't say such a thing anywhere on any issue whatever,
RP> to my knowledge. If such a reason for refusal to deny
RP> support is to be considered valid, then the Republican
RP> platform is a meaningless document, and Republican
RP> candidates can ignore any part or all of it with impunity
RP> and still be assured of financial and other support from
RP> the party organization.
So the social conservatives should expel the fiscal
conservatives, and vice versa? Why is it that single-issue
voters are more comfortable as ineffective minorities?
RP> Sounds to me like it'd be smart for strapped-for-money
RP> LIbEral DemonRats to simply switch party labels - they'd
RP> get the support no matter what their stands on issues,
RP> right?
Works for me - their seats would be counted towards the
Republican majority and nothing requires that they be given
chairmanships or other positions of importance.
RP> Is there *any* stand on any issue whatever that in your
RP> opinion would call for withholding funding and other
RP> support from a Republcan candidate?
Any position advocating violation of the law. You ignore
the fact that the further left a Republican becomes, the
greater the number of primary opponents that will appear.
The process is self-correcting.
RP> If not, then what reason is there for supporting the
RP> Republican party over another?
The sum total of its positions on a spectrum of issues.
RP> If there is such an issue, then what is the rationale for
RP> it that isn't equally valid for the issue of abortion/PBA?
Single issue voters generally cut off their noses to spite
their face. It is the single issue voters who claimed in
1992: "Let them elect a liberal - after 4 years, they'll
see the error of their ways".
Well, they didn't see the error of their ways - neither in
1992 or, again, in 1996.
RP> There's nothing in the platform requiring members to
RP> ban/oppose those percieved as racists either, but there is
RP> absolutely no hesitance whatever on the part of the party
RP> to do so. What justification is there for opposing those
RP> candidates, but not opposing pro-aborts?
Racism happens to be illegal. Abortion, regretably, is not.
RP> IMO, the reason is clear: the party leadership does not
RP> actually oppose abortion, regardless its claims.
Gratutitous assertion. They don't see it as the single
predominant issue, nor should they.
RP> Those that say they are personally opposed to abortion, but
RP> refuse to stand up against it, and even support pro-abort
RP> candidates, are being no different than countless DemonRats
RP> we've heard over the years who've consistently said exactly
RP> the same thing.
Only in the eyes of the single-issue voter. To deny any
difference between Christy Todd Whitman the incumbent she
defeated is to ignore the entire fiscally conservative
portion of the platform.
RP> And, isn't it interesting that in that first paragraph up
RP> there, the Republican party flatly says it "will not fund
RP> organizations which advocate it (abortion)", yet they
RP> exempt Republican campaign organizations? Guess the excuse
RP> is that the latter doesn't use public funds? If they'll use
RP> private funds to finance campaigns of pro-aborts, do you
RP> really believe they'll be constrained from using public
RP> funds to finance other organizations that advocate the
RP> same? (Somehow, the National Endowment for the Arts comes
RP> to mind.) And, why should any pro-lifer contribute one dime
RP> to a party whose national committee has voted to use that
RP> dime to finance campaigns of pro-aborts?
It's amazing that single issue voters can look at the
evidence of 60 years of incrementalism by liberals, yet
deny the Republican party the use of the same technique.
RP> If the platform is something to be ignored, then the party
RP> stands for nothing, and there is no reason to work for and
RP> support it. Such separation from principle relegates the
RP> conflict between Republicans and Democrats to nothing more
RP> than a battle of party labels, no different in kind than
RP> supporting one sports team over another.
Where in the Constitution is a conflict required between
parties? Granted, such is often the consequence of
differing philosophies and goals, but it's certainly not
required.
RC>> Pardon me and that upstart "minority faction" for being so
RC>> foolish as to insist the party hold itself and its
RC>> candidates to the principles it claims it stands for.
RC> Long ago, I found that self-inflicted wounds are generally
RC> poor tactics, not to mention strategy. Yes, we can expel
RC> all those who won't take a loyalty oath - we can also
RC> surrender majority status and sit on the sidelines,
RC> watching the liberals do as they will.
RP> Perhaps you can explain how it advances one's cause to
RP> support, finance, encourage, and work to increase the
RP> numbers of those who oppose said cause in one's own party.
"said cause"? Are we again back to the single issue
mindset? Even the ACU doesn't rate legislators on the basis
of a single issue.
I judge candidates on a broad range of issues - the
importance of which can vary with time and circumstance.
RP> Perhaps you can explain the benefit to conservatives of
RP> Republican majority status when, on having achieved
RP> majority, the party then increasingly behaves and
RP> legislates more liberal than conservative.
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