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   You paid for Hotmail Plus or other premium service.  Access via DAV =
is one feature.  The access in Outlook is not beta.  The access in OE I =
believe has always been.  Windows Live Mail Desktop uses a different = HTTP
based protocol, one I believe is related to the AirSync protocol = supported by
Exchange for mobile devices.

Rich
 =20
  "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message =
news:45916633$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  The subset of Hotmail accounts OE was limited to are paid hotmail =
accounts. I've never seen it described as Beta when they asked for my = money

  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/878462

   MSN Hotmail no longer supports Distributed Authoring and Versioning =
(DAV) for free user accounts. Outlook Express uses the DAV interface to =
connect to Hotmail. Only paid Hotmail accounts will work correctly with =
Outlook Express.


  Rich"  wrote in message news:459164df$1{at}w3.nls.net...
           Hotmail DAV access in OE was always a beta feature.  It is =
limited to a subset of accounts.  I think it always was and was further =
restricted a few years ago.  There is also a mechanism to access Hotmail =
accounts in Outlook via the Microsoft Office Outlook Connector.  The = latter
is what I use.  It too is limited to a subset of accounts.  I = think it works
for paid accounts and free accounts linked to a paid one.

       WLMD I believe has the same export capabilities as Windows Mail =
which includes export to Outlook.

       If you just want to archive messages, with Windows Mail and =
Windows Live Mail Desktop you can just archive the EML and NWS files.  = One of
the changes from OE is to persist the messages as individual = files instead of
store the message bodies in a database.  I believe this = was easier for
Windows Desktop Search.

    Rich

      "John Beckett"  wrote in message =
news:ads1p2t9u07oc4rdbcqrpgcogfp48u6n88{at}4ax.com...
      "Rich"  wrote in message news::
      >  I only know of one removed feature, the always beta access to =
Hotmail via=20
      > DAV.  If you want this use Windows Live Mail Desktop which is in =
beta. =20
      > You can find it at
      > =
http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionid=3D6ac2bed2-b5a4-4a0a-a89=
7-e36dd191a9f4.

      Thanks for link.

      So Windows Live Mail Desktop will access Hotmail.
      Do you know if it will export to Outlook (or if Outlook can =
import)?
      (I mean Microsoft Office Outlook, not Outlook Express.)

      I guess "no" because they need ads to pay for the service.

      I am in the habit of using Outlook Express to download mail from a =
Hotmail
      account. Then I import stuff I want to keep into Office Outlook.

      However, the ability for Outlook Express to access Hotmail seems =
to have
      disappeared from my home system (it worked before; now I get a
      "temporarily moved" error). But it still works on a system at =
work.
      Strange.

      John

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Rich
  

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  wrote in message news:45916633$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  The subset of Hotmail
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  Outlook Express.
   
   
  Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:459164df$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  

      
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    Search.
     
    Rich
     
    
      "John Beckett" <johnXsecondary{at}tpgXcomXau&g=">mailto:johnXsecondary{at}tpgXcomXau">johnXsecondary{at}tpgXcomXau&g=
t;=20
      wrote in message news:ads1p2t9u07=
oc4rdbcqrpgcogfp48u6n88{at}4ax.com..."Rich"=20
      <{at}> wrote in message http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionid=3D6ac2bed2-b5a4-=
4a0a-a897-e36dd191a9f4">http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionid=3D=
6ac2bed2-b5a4-4a0a-a897-e36dd191a9f4.Thanks=20
      for link.So Windows Live Mail Desktop will access =
Hotmail.Do=20
      you know if it will export to Outlook (or if Outlook can =
import)?(I=20
      mean Microsoft Office Outlook, not Outlook Express.)I =
guess "no"=20
      because they need ads to pay for the service.I am in the =
habit of=20
      using Outlook Express to download mail from a Hotmailaccount. =
Then I=20
      import stuff I want to keep into Office Outlook.However, =
the=20
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havedisappeared=20
      from my home system (it worked before; now I get a"temporarily =
moved"=20
      error). But it still works on a system at=20
    =
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