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to: Kris Steenhaut
from: George Fliger
date: 1999-09-09 06:01:14
subject: Re: Matrox drivers?

On 5 Sep 99 10:33am, Kris Steenhaut wrote to George Fliger:

 KS> Hello George,
 KS> woensdag 01 september 1999 06.00, George Fliger wrote to Kris
 KS> Steenhaut:

 GF> On 29 Aug 99 11:49am, Kris Steenhaut wrote to Eddy Thilleman:

 KS>> Hello Eddy,
 KS>> woensdag 25 augustus 1999 10.50, Eddy Thilleman wrote to Bas
 KS>> Heijermans:

 ET>> Hi Bas,

 ET>> 16 Aug 99, Bas Heijermans of 2:292/180 wrote to MIKE RUSKAI:

 MR>>> The problem with the Matrox cards locking up while
 MR>>> displaying software  cursors is not caused by overheating.
 MR>>> I can reproduce the problem here,  and I have six cooling
 MR>>> fans inside my case.  Nothing in there ever  overheats.

 ET>> Are you using the Matrox v2.23 (or later) driver? In that case,
 ET>> try with the v2.21 driver (you can install it over the current
 ET>> one, just

 KS>> Well, you had it right about Matrox: their drivers really suck,
 KS>> no matter what bios the card is on, no matter wich 2.22 @ 2.31
 KS>> driver, no matter wich 256 @ 16.7 resolution . I've tried &
 KS>> interchanged them all by now.

 KS>> The most reliable, hmm, better say the less unreliable, are the
 KS>> latest beta 2.31.
 KS>> The 2.31 only block at high processing activities, and not on
 KS>> high file transfers too, as the 2.22 @ 2.30 do.

 KS>> Maybe the SDD drivers will bring a solution. If not, definitely
 KS>> the Matrox will be kicked out here.

 GF> Sorry you feel that way because I do not experience any of the

 KS> I don't feel it that way, it tis that way.

For you, obviously.  Very narrow minded.

 KS> Moreover, since about two months, complaints about Matrox do
 KS> popup from all over the World.
 KS> If you really don't know, just subsribe to some newsgroups.

I've probably read more newsgroup information than you have A's in your
alphabet soup, son.  Your attempts at being condescending are tiring at
best.

 KS> Why since two months? Coz finally people dare to contradict the
 KS> official guru's.

Technical expertise according to Kris.  Sorry, I won't buy the novel.

 GF> problems you describe with MY Matrox Millennium II.  It's been
 GF> extremely solid, especially with the latest drivers and flash bios
 GF> code.

 KS> Well, if it solid on your's you are lucky, coz on most systems
 KS> it isn't that way at all.

Most systems.  I suppose you're going to stand here and say you've been
to every office and household in the entire world that has a system with
a Matrox card in it and can "personally" profess to its lousy operation.
Puleasse!!!!  You're so funny as to be laughable.

 GF>   In fact, the latest drivers fixed a background display problem
 KS>                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 KS> Didn't you say they are "extremely" solid? :-)

Extremely solid means no lockups, no crashes, no funny changes at
different resolutions.  The background display problem was simply that.
Transparent backgrounds would not display in ONE particular program but
that didn't stop the program from functioning.  But, if you followed the
newsgroups you put such great store in, you'd already know that now,
wouldn't you. :)

 GF> With the above in mind, your comment that Matrox drivers, "really
 GF> suck" seems to only apply to your use of them.

 KS> No boy, the "it's only you" trick will not work anymore.
 KS> Complaints do bumb in from all over the work. Do subscibe to
 KS> some newsgroups, please.

You're such a crybaby.  Try again.

 GF>   They blow the socks
 GF> off of IBM's GRADD drivers and SDD's drivers in speed and performance
 GF> here.

 KS> This is an ““““““ld story, you know? The SDD drivers blow the
 KS> socks off the Matrox, even the 2.31.
 KS> You'd better update your level of information a bit, I'm afraid.

I can prove my claims.  You're invited over anytime you want to "put up
or shut up."

 KS> BTW: even the IBM-NS programmers team have pointed to the
 KS> Matrox as cause of a some serious  of Netscape bugs.

The IBM-NS programmers can point out problems with just about every
video adapter out there, given the right scenario.  So what else is new?
You *CAN* do better than that, can't you?

 KS> No, it is not only my. And imho, the Matrox can't be
 KS> recommended at all.

Matrox is an excellent product that you just happen to not like.  But,
just because you don't like it and don't care that my comments paint the
product in a much more pleasing light doesn't give you the right to bash
me for it.  Your attempts at being condescending are childish at best.

My suggestion to you is to go back home, go back to bed and get back up
on the right side.  You're in obvious need of a good nap.  It does
wonders for the attitude.

George


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