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   Are you intentionally blind or just trying to appear ignorant.

   Regarding IE7, what is present on the classic menus that is not =
present on the new toolbar menus that is necessary for IE to be usable?

   There are an enormous number of improvements and new features both in =
the platform and the applications.  If you only can see what you call = "new
paint" you would be blind to much of this.  Of what you call "new
= paint"
there is much of this too none of which has the purpose you made = up.

   Windows Mail is the name for the new version of what was Outlook =
Express which is the name for the newer versions of what was Internet = Mail
and News.  Is the name important to you?

   The number of services running on my Windows XP system is 60 while =
the number on my Windows Vista Ultimate system is 69.  While the number = of
services increased by 15% the number of service processes decreased = from 23
to 15 or 34%.  The extra services provide greater granularity.  = This is with
my having enabled a number of optional services on my = Windows Vista system so
the decrease should be even greater for you.  = There are also fewer ports open
though most of these are blocked by the = firewall on both systems.  Finally,
the privilege level of the existing = services has been reduced even further it
was in Windows XP.  In other = words, there is less attack surface.

Rich

  "Geo"  wrote in message
news:458ea6c6$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  So after a few days running vista on my mail laptop I've come to the
  conclusion that the reason Microsoft does things like turning off the =
menu
  bar in IE7 is just to make it look different because it certainly =
isn't for
  added functionality as I had to turn it back on to make it useable.

  Seems there is a lot of new paint who's only purpose is to hide the =
fact
  that it's still a Windows 2000 system with not much new except DRM and =
a few
  frills and ok there are a handful of .1 release type improvements like =
task
  manager.

  Windows mail is outlook express.

  Spider solitare has been improved with really annoying cards and
  highlighting and it now sucks up way more resources.

  Networking with W2K is just as bad as it was with XP. Maybe worse.

  IPv6 is enabled by default, why is beyond me, perhaps they just wanted =
to
  provide more surface area for hackers?

  The number of running services has increased to the point of being
  rediculous.

  The user whatever the hell it's called feature that questions your =
every
  command does have an off switch and I really can't believe there is =
anyone
  who won't turn it off.

  I'm going to run it for at least a couple more months but at this =
point I
  much prefer W2K or even  xp.. I sincerely believe that Vista was
  designed by marketing not by geeks and certainly not by anyone who =
uses a
  computer more than an hour a day.

  Geo.


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   Are you
intentionally =
blind or just=20
trying to appear ignorant.
 
   Regarding
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present on the=20
classic menus that is not present on the new toolbar menus that is = necessary
for=20
IE to be usable?
 
   There are
an enormous =
number of=20
improvements and new features both in the platform and the =
applications. =20
If you only can see what you call "new paint" you would be blind to much =
of=20
this.  Of what you call "new paint" there is much of
this too none = of
which=20
has the purpose you made up.
 
   Windows
Mail is the name =
for the new=20
version of what was Outlook Express which is the name for the newer = versions
of=20
what was Internet Mail and News.  Is the name important to=20
you?
 
   The
number of services =
running on my=20
Windows XP system is 60 while the number on my Windows Vista Ultimate = system
is=20
69.  While the number of services increased by 15% the
number = of=20
service processes decreased from 23 to 15 or 34%.  The extra = services=20
provide greater granularity.  This is with my having enabled a = number
of=20
optional services on my Windows Vista system so the decrease should be =
even=20
greater for you.  There are also fewer ports open though most of = these
are=20
blocked by the firewall on both systems.  Finally, the privilege = level
of=20
the existing services has been reduced even further it was in Windows =
XP. =20
In other words, there is less attack surface.
 
Rich
 

  "Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote=20
  in message news:458ea6c6$1{at}w3.nls.net...So=20
  after a few days running vista on my mail laptop I've come to=20
  theconclusion that the reason Microsoft does things like turning =
off the=20
  menubar in IE7 is just to make it look different because it =
certainly=20
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resources.Networking=20
  with W2K is just as bad as it was with XP. Maybe
worse.IPv6 is =
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increased=20
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switch=20
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at this=20
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believe that=20
  Vista wasdesigned by marketing not by geeks and certainly not by =
anyone=20
  who uses acomputer more than an hour a=20
day.Geo.

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