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to: Adam Flinton
from: Rich
date: 2004-02-13 09:19:20
subject: Re: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2004-051.html

From: "Rich" 

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   You can take that list and make them vulnerabilities that are the =
responsibility of the vendor that releases them.

   Are you really this dumb?  Is this lack of responsiblity the policy =
of, Sun, your employer?

Rich

  "Adam Flinton"  wrote in message =
news:4091e8.4d3c47{at}harborwebs.com...
  > From: "Geo." 
  > his laptop is a piece of hardware not an OS distribution.

  Nope it's a distrib coz I got my laptop out of it's box & turned it on =
&
  everything was already there & loaded. I have yet to open any of the =
cd'es that
  came with the Dell. It's a hard disk distrib. A CD is a piece of =
hardware.=20

  In fact I seem to remember (but I don't have the docs to hand) that =
some parts
  of the "dell XP distie" come with a set of "if you change
this stuff =
you're on
  your own" warnings in the docs.

  As such if Rich's list from RH is valid then it's valid to run up a =
list of all
  the vendors who pre-load Windows onto machines & then to run up a list =
of the
  apps they also pre-load & thus to count all those apps as part of =
Windows.

  Adam


  > Geo.
  > "Adam Flinton"  wrote in message
  > news:402c82c1{at}w3.nls.net...
  >> Geo. wrote:
  >>=20
  >> > if it's part of the distribution it counts.
  >> >
  >>=20
  >> Thnking about it.....my borther's SOny laptop came with XP & a =
whole
  >> host of apps rwady installed...so I take it that all those apps =
that
  >> came installed with the box (e.g. WinDVD etc) are all thus Windows =
vulns
  >> if a problem is found?
  >>=20
  >>=20
  >>=20
  >>=20
  >> Adam
  >>
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   You can
take that list and =
make them=20
vulnerabilities that are the responsibility of the vendor that releases=20
them.
 
   Are you
really this =
dumb?  Is=20
this lack of responsiblity the policy of, Sun, your =
employer?
 
Rich
 

  "Adam Flinton" <Adam.Flinton{at}harborwebs.commailto:Adam.Flinton{at}harborwebs.com">Adam.Flinton{at}harborwebs.com
A>>=20
  wrote in message news:4091e8.4d3c47{at}harborwebs.=
com...>=20
  From: "Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>>
his =
laptop is a=20
  piece of hardware not an OS distribution.Nope it's a distrib =
coz I got=20
  my laptop out of it's box & turned it on
&everything was =
already=20
  there & loaded. I have yet to open any of the cd'es thatcame =
with the=20
  Dell. It's a hard disk distrib. A CD is a piece of hardware. =
In fact I=20
  seem to remember (but I don't have the docs to hand) that some =
partsof the=20
  "dell XP distie" come with a set of "if you change this
stuff you're=20
  onyour own" warnings in the docs.As
such if Rich's list =
from RH is=20
  valid then it's valid to run up a list of allthe vendors who =
pre-load=20
  Windows onto machines & then to run up a list of theapps they =
also=20
  pre-load & thus to count all those apps as part of=20
  Windows.Adam>
Geo.> "Adam Flinton" =
<adam_NO_{at}_SPAM_softfab.com=">mailto:adam_NO_{at}_SPAM_softfab.com">adam_NO_{at}_SPAM_softfab.com=
>=20
  wrote in message> news:402c82c1{at}w3.nls.net...>=
>=20
  Geo. wrote:>> >> >
if it's part of the =
distribution it=20
  counts.>> >>>
>> Thnking about =
it.....my=20
  borther's SOny laptop came with XP & a
whole>> host of =
apps=20
  rwady installed...so I take it that all those apps that>> =
came=20
  installed with the box (e.g. WinDVD etc) are all thus Windows=20
  vulns>> if a problem is
found?>> >> =
>>=20
  >> >>
Adam>>

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