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Pascal Schmidt wrote in a message to Roy J. Tellason: PS> Hi Roy! :-) RJT> This is going back a few years, but there was a local computer RJT> store around here that at one time advertised a machine they called RJT> their "Pentium-killer". It was a 486, but of a special design, so RJT> that _all_ of the ram in it was as fast as most cache in those days RJT> was. PS> Well, the best one could do on a 486 would be to make RAM twice as PS> slow as the internal cache. I've been reading old reports about the PS> 486 design lately, and operations with data from the cache take 1 PS> cycle, while going to main memory has a minimum additional 1 cycle PS> penalty for going to the on-chip memory interface. Note that it PS> still would require glue logic between CPU and memory that could do PS> its job "instanteneously", which is impossible. ;) I don't know, as I said I never did get much in the way of details back then. PS> Now, maybe the comparision was against the 386s of that day, which PS> had external cache taking a few cycles to do its work. Still much PS> faster than going to the real memory. The comparison was specifically against the Pentium machines that were being pushed everywhere at that time. RJT> I never did get much in the way of details as to just what brand RJT> of MB or what kind of ram they were using in it back then, but RJT> it sounded pretty nifty... PS> Yeah, but that was still a CPU running at a rather low frequency PS> (the fastest true 486 designs run at 120 MHz for AMD and 100 MHz PS> for Intel) compared to what we have now. There's something different about the 133? That's what I'm running in this box I'm typing on now. AMD part, they call it a "5x86/133", although I believe it has some other markings on it as well, P75 or somesuch. PS> Doing something like that would be extremely expensive now. Intel PS> charges excessive prices for Xeon CPUs with 2M of cache. That may PS> be for marketing reasons, but in fact it is also not easy to PS> manufacture a 2M cache that can run at GHz speeds. I can't imagine it'd be easy to make *anything* that runs at those speeds! This is RF, and fairly high frequency RF at that! It really blows me away that speeds are getting up into the regions they're into these days, although I have my doubts about how much the rest of the system can keep up... ---* Origin: TANSTAAFL BBS 717-838-8539 (1:270/615) SEEN-BY: 633/267 270 @PATH: 270/615 150/220 379/1 396/45 106/2000 633/267 |
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