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   They are part of redhat linux 9 which is why redhat took the =
responsiblity you are trying to claim they do not have.  If Sony were =
reselling redhat linux which included these vulnerable components then I =
would expect redhat to take responsibility unless Sony and redhat have =
agreed that Sony would be responsible.

   Does your employer, Sun, have a policy that they are not responsible =
for third-party software and hardware that they ship as part of their =
products?  That should scare a great number of people off of using Sun =
products.

   Let's make this easier for you so that you don't have to feel you are =
being asked to speak for sun.  Do you think that companies in general, =
not just your employer, should have the policy of disclaiming =
responsiblity that you are advocating?

Rich

  "Adam Flinton"  wrote in message =
news:402d350d$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  Ah right so if sony bundle linux & Gaim & mutt then Gaim & mutt would =
be=20
  Sony vulnerabilites because they are part of sony's product.

  Adam

  Rich wrote:
  >    No they would be Sony vulerabilities because they are parts of =
Sony's=20
  > product and not part of Windows.
  > =20
  > Rich
  > =20
  >=20
  >     "Adam Flinton"      > wrote in message
  >     news:402c82c1{at}w3.nls.net...
  >     Geo. wrote:
  >=20
  >      > if it's part of the distribution it counts.
  >      >
  >=20
  >     Thnking about it.....my borther's SOny laptop came with XP & a =
whole
  >     host of apps rwady installed...so I take it that all those apps =
that
  >     came installed with the box (e.g. WinDVD etc) are all thus =
Windows
  >     vulns
  >     if a problem is found?
  >=20
  >=20
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  >     Adam

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   They are
part of redhat =
linux 9 which=20
is why redhat took the responsiblity you are trying to claim they do not =

have.  If Sony were reselling redhat linux which included these =
vulnerable=20
components then I would expect redhat to take responsibility unless Sony = and=20
redhat have agreed that Sony would be responsible.
 
   Does your
employer, Sun, =
have a policy=20
that they are not responsible for third-party software and hardware that = they=20
ship as part of their products?  That should scare a great number
= of people=20
off of using Sun products.
 
   Let's
make this easier for =
you so that=20
you don't have to feel you are being asked to speak for sun.  Do =
you think=20
that companies in general, not just your employer, should have the
= policy=20
of disclaiming responsiblity that you are advocating?
 
Rich
 

  "Adam Flinton" <adam_NO_{at}_SPAM_softfab.com=">mailto:adam_NO_{at}_SPAM_softfab.com">adam_NO_{at}_SPAM_softfab.com=
>=20
  wrote in message news:402d350d$1{at}w3.nls.net...Ah=20
  right so if sony bundle linux & Gaim & mutt then Gaim & =
mutt would=20
  be Sony vulnerabilites because they are part of sony's=20
  product.AdamRich
wrote:>    No =
they=20
  would be Sony vulerabilities because they are parts of Sony's > =
product=20
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  >     "Adam
Flinton" <adam_NO_{at}_SPAM_softfab.com=">mailto:adam_NO_{at}_SPAM_softfab.com">adam_NO_{at}_SPAM_softfab.com=
>    =20
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  wrote in message>     news:402c82c1{at}w3.nls.net...>=
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  Geo. wrote:>
>     
> if =
it's part=20
  of the distribution it
counts.>     =20
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>     Thnking about
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  whole>     host of
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  it that all those apps
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  with the box (e.g. WinDVD etc) are all thus=20
  Windows>     =
vulns>    =20
  if a problem is found?> >
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  >    
Adam

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