BL> Even after he *copied* the TELIX layout, he managed to stuff
BL> that too! Instead of just ALT-X to get out, he uses ALT-A X.
BL> Why the hell add another keystroke?

DD> To piss off old farts.

 (grin) It really works well, in that case.

 David, were you the one who asked if you could run Windows out of
Linux? Well, I'm doing it now!

 I'm using a program called vnc (virtual network communications)
that came with my SuSE distribution (it includes the Windows part)
which acts as a virtual X server... both ways: from Windows to Linux
and Linux to Windows. In fact, I've just hopped back to the Windows
machine to type that last sentence.

 It's really weird! I've got the Linux machine running with the
Windows desktop on it (actually runnign in the KDE Internet Browser)
and I can just hop from one machine to the other, continuing halfway
through this sentence. As soon as I type a letter here, it appears
over there...

 Actually I meant it to be the other way around, with the Linux
desktop on the Windows machine, but I've only just started, and this
is how it set itself up.

 The programs themselves run quite fast and the mouse is okay, but
the bloody keyboard is a bit stuffed (on both machines).    

... [later]

 Aha! The fault is with Windows, naturally. If you run the seerver on
Windows and log on from the Linux box, you need to disable the Windows
keyboard (or the Linux keyboard). If you try to use both it still
works but it's mixed up and slow. It doesn't matter the other way
around (running the Linux server out of Windows) because Linux just
opens another desktop with its own keyboard etc. 

 Bloody hell! A Linux program that is shit-easy to set up, and works
right! What will they think of next? I've worked out the key to Linux.
The proper engineers who wrote the oiginal thingie did it right. Linux
works, X works... and vnc works (it was written by Olivetti and AT&T).
Unfortunately, the rest of Linux is like amateur hour at Woop Woop...
lots of noise but no talent.

 In fact, this is the first Win32 program I have ever seen where they
give you the choice of rewriting the Windows Registry or using their
own! If you don't like vnc, you don't have to spend an hour cleaning
out the bloody registry to get rid of it... 

 If I run the vnc server on the Linux box, I nominate what desktop I
want to use, and then I just log on from Windows as the Xclient to
that Xwindow desktop. You start off in an Xwindow with twm as
the manager, but with full access to the Linux machine you can load
KDE or Gnome on top! I can even run dosemu  to get a Linux DOS window,
and run telix using the Linux modem... from Win98! It doesn't seem to
lose any speed across the cable - Alt-TAB, and I'm back in Windows! I
didn't even have to fill in a configuration file! How good is this?

 Now I can do what I wanted to do from step-one. I can bury the Linux
box connected only by the network cable and a phone line, and run the
whole thing remotely from the Windows box (or, if AT&T are telling
the truth, from Afghanistan using a floppy with 250K of stuff on it).

Regards,
Bob

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