From: "Rich" 

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   Nothing below has to do with verification.

   To be honest, I do not have personal knowledge of the mechanism used =
to match hardware to drivers.  What is described in the email you quote =
sounds reasonable..

Rich

  "Frank Haber"  wrote in message =
news:402a8631$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  Rich, perhaps the example below will help me to understand this =
trusted
  verification stuff in WinUpdate.  Recently, an Nvidia driver update =
has
  appeared in (!!) Critical Update for some XP users of the low-end =
MX420 card,
  popular in Dells, HPs and Gateways.  I'd never seen this before.  Not =
only
  does it violate previous practice of not forcing a hardware update, it =
could
  mess up users' computers who are blithely trusting XP Autoupdate.  In =
some
  cases, Autoupdate can force a down-version on someone.  In others, it =
is
  offered, then won't install.  I've heard of one report of its =
installing and
  replacing a subtly different OEM card's drivers.

  Could you explain "four-way match, below?"

  Name redacted to protect the nice guy who offered this.  More history: =
Nvidia
  put this driver up "to fix crashes."  I know no more details of the =
crashess.
  I've never heard of any particular trouble with this card - it usually =
just
  lies there like a lox and makes video, fairly slowly.


  =3D=3D=3D=3D

  From: "Microsoft Video Driver OCA Triage (xxx{at}xx)

  HWID=3DHardware ID (this identifies what card you have to the =
operating system
  HW=3DHardware (i.e. your nVidia card)
  We and nVidia know of this problem...

  Basically because 53.03 does not contain a 4 part HWID match for your =
device
  lt installs a 2-part HWID match.
  Windows Update only lets 4-HWID's onto the site but it always sees a =
4-part
  HWID match as a better match
  then a two part so it offers you the update even though you have a =
newer
  driver installed.
  To fix this in the future nVidia will try and post drivers that have =
4-part
  HWID matches on their website.
  You will be able to uncheck the box by the update but it will stay =
there
  untill you get a driver from nVidia with a 4
  -part HWID that is newer. Hopefully nVidia next driver posting will =
have a
  4-part HWID match for your HW.
  Let me know if you have any further questions...
  Thanks,
  (redacted)

  =3D=3D=3Deoq

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   Nothing
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verification.
 
   To be
honest, I do not =
have personal=20
knowledge of the mechanism used to match hardware to drivers.  What = is=20
described in the email you quote sounds reasonable..
 
Rich
 

  "Frank Haber" <frhaber{at}N0SPMrcn.com>">mailto:frhaber{at}N0SPMrcn.com">frhaber{at}N0SPMrcn.com>
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wrote in=20
  message news:402a8631$1{at}w3.nls.net...Rich,=20
  perhaps the example below will help me to understand this=20
  trustedverification stuff in WinUpdate.  Recently, an Nvidia =
driver=20
  update hasappeared in (!!) Critical Update for some XP users of =
the=20
  low-end MX420 card,popular in Dells, HPs and Gateways.  I'd =
never=20
  seen this before.  Not onlydoes it violate previous practice =
of not=20
  forcing a hardware update, it couldmess up users' computers who =
are=20
  blithely trusting XP Autoupdate.  In somecases, Autoupdate =
can force=20
  a down-version on someone.  In others, it isoffered, then =
won't=20
  install.  I've heard of one report of its installing =
andreplacing a=20
  subtly different OEM card's drivers.Could you explain =
"four-way match,=20
  below?"Name redacted to protect the nice guy who offered =
this. =20
  More history: Nvidiaput this driver up "to fix
crashes."  I =
know no=20
  more details of the crashess.I've never heard of any particular =
trouble=20
  with this card - it usually justlies there like a lox and makes =
video,=20
  fairly
slowly.=3D=3D=3D=3DFrom:
"Microsoft Video =
Driver OCA Triage=20
  (xxx{at}xx)HWID=3DHardware">mailto:xxx{at}xx">xxx{at}xx)HWID=3DHardware
ID (this =
identifies=20
  what card you have to the operating systemHW=3DHardware (i.e. your =
nVidia=20
  card)We and nVidia know of this problem...Basically =
because 53.03=20
  does not contain a 4 part HWID match for your devicelt installs a =
2-part=20
  HWID match.Windows Update only lets 4-HWID's onto the site but it =
always=20
  sees a 4-partHWID match as a better matchthen a two
part so it =
offers=20
  you the update even though you have a newerdriver
installed.To =
fix=20
  this in the future nVidia will try and post drivers that have =
4-partHWID=20
  matches on their website.You will be able to uncheck the box by =
the update=20
  but it will stay thereuntill you get a driver from nVidia with a=20
  4-part HWID that is newer. Hopefully nVidia next driver posting =
will have=20
  a4-part HWID match for your HW.Let me know if you have any =
further=20
  =
questions...Thanks,(redacted)=3D=3D=3Deoq

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