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to: JAMES VAHN
from: RENE HERMAN
date: 1997-07-16 07:32:00
subject: to ALL?

Hello James ...
Monday July 14, you wrote to Jon Gentil
 >> He knows, but you see, on the Internet, there are no TO: fields, so
 >> it is impossible for him to post to anyone BUT "ALL".
 JV> Jon, this might be a strange question, but.. how does this one look?
 JV> Is there any hint that it is not a traditional Fido message?
Well, sorta... you appear as James Vahn (1:346/15.1) and this message was 
properly addressed to Jon Gentil, but the following gives it away:
 JV> @MSGID: short.circuit.com 7d32ec3d
Just thougt I'd advise you that this will cause trouble for some message 
readers. I just switched to GoldEd for this very reason. My previous reader, 
Termail, the message reader from the Terminate communications package tried 
to get the address from the MSGID kludge, and on not finding a "valid" MSGID 
would show (and use, when replying via netmail) my uplink's address instead.
I "complained" to someone about this, and he provided me with the following 
quote from the if-mail docs:
=====
Q: My fidonet neighbours are complaining about the format on ^aMSGID
   kludge in my messages.  They ask me to put my FTN address there.
   Should I do it, and if yes, how?
A: Probably you should not.  If you do, a single message of Internet
   origin will get _different_ ^aMDGID's when gatewayed to Fidonet at
   different gateways, which is incorrect.  Also, the FTS standart says
   that the ^aMSGID should contain the address of the originating
   network, which won't be true if the gateway's address is substituted.
=====
Most readers will take the address from the origin, so it won't be much of a 
problem, but if the above consideration about different gateways doesn't hold
for you, as moderator you might want to consider putting your FTN address 
there anyway, to avoid problems with replies via netmail...
One more thing, and I should address this to Mervyn Baldwin, but as he's 
writing from the same adress and thus might be reading this (or do you guys 
have nothing to do with one another, I don't know the first thing about this 
gateway stuff, but the point address seems to imply it's some kind of 
personal gateway?), and I don't want to be offtopic twice ...
James, your messages have a normal reply kludge:
 JV> @REPLY: 1:232/211@fidonet 3c8ce846
Mervyn, yours don't have /any/ reply kludge. Not a real problem, but as it 
appears you could add one, you probably should, it is a FTS (and makes 
intelligent reply linking possible).
By the way, your MSGIDs "suffer" from the same internetism as James's:
 MB> @MSGID: abaldwin.demon.co.uk 4a6b76f9
Hope I helped,
Rene
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