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date: 2005-01-05 10:46:00
subject: Re: Was `Re: Santa Claus

Sarah Kanary wrote:
>  wrote in message

>
> Presenting fantasy as fact is lying.

It's fantasy!

> And lying has no 'degrees'.

Sure it does.  What about Rahab's lie?

>  Few
> parents actually believe in Captain Kirk, but then again, neither do
they
> lyingly tell their children that Captain Kirk visits their house and
brings
> them stuff.
>
Hey, you're free to raise your children the way you wish.  I grew up on
English hardbound comic books, such as Rupert and others.  Probably 90%
of those who consider themselves "religious" were raised believing in
Santa.  Where is the harm?  Do you think God has no imagination?  Does
your view of God include creating man such that he can think abstractly
and write great novels and fiction and fantasy, then condemn him for
the telling of those tells?  Oviously, I don't have the same view of
God as you do.

>
> Believe that if you wish.  However, I've provided answers

Yes, for the most part (though not always) you have provided some sort
of reply.  But answers?  I mean substantive exegetical apologies?  Now
who believes in Santa Claus?

>to these and more.
> In detail and abundance.  If you wish, I can reiterate for the sake
of
> readers who may not have seen the threads.
>
Its a free internet.
>
> > And as Christ mentioned to Nicodemus, how can you presume to know
> > heavenly things when you can't even provide answers to such earthly
> > things like, "Unity  in the midst diversity?"  Only the
Trinitarian
has
> > an answer -and that you are not.
>
> "Unity in the midst diversity" is nowhere mentioned in Christ's
conversation
> with Nicodemus, or anywhere else in the Bible in connection with
Jehovah,
> who ALONE is the Most High God.  (Ps. 83:18)
>
What was the point being made?  Why did I mention Christ's conversation
with Nicodemus?  Jn 3:12.   What is the principle?  The principle is
that if you cannot provide an answer to the little things like the
constructs of the universe, then why should we believe you when you
speak of the greater thing, the Constructor of the universe?

And this is about where the meritorious aspect of your answers have
stood.

JW's can no more justify their religion today from scripture than could
the Arian's who were judged a heresy in the earliest years of the
Church.  It cannot remain true to basic Greek grammar and true to its
Arian view of Christ.  It doesn't believe in the Personhood of the
Spirit therefore has no Spirit inspired revelation of what is the
truth.  It worships an idol of the mind, thinking Christ and the
Godhead to be other than it is.

Again, you cannot even address the "earthly things" such as unity and
diversity, so why should anyone believe that you can address the
greater things, such as the nature of God.
>
> Being united, yet diverse as an 'earthly' thing is something unique
to
> Jehovah's Witnesses - in over 236 lands, we are an international
> brotherhood, with no racial, national, political, tribal or social
> divisions.  Whether Tutsi or Hutu, Iraqi or American, Brahman or
> Untouchable, Christian love unites us under the rulership of the
Prince of 
> Peace.  

Are you advocating JWism or the Baha'i faith?

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