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from: Chris Smith
date: 2005-01-05 10:43:00
subject: Re: Materialist Kasper

News Subsystem  wrote:
> No comentary.

Which is a shame, because it would be nice to know what you thought you 
were pointing out by posting this article.

> "The basic idea of the Second Vatican Council and in particular the 
> Decree on Ecumenism can be summed up in one word: communio(14). 
> The term is important for a proper understanding of the issue of the 
> "elementa ecclesiae". This phrase suggests a quantitative, almost 
> 
> MATERIALISTIC, 
> 
> dimension, as though it were possible to quantify or count all the 
> elements, checking to see whether their numbers were complete."

Certainly the article is far from demonstrating that Cardinal Kasper is 
materialistic, as your subject implies.  If you read the entire text, 
you'll find that he is comparing two ways of describing non-Catholic 
Christian churches and communities: looking at them as the "elementa 
ecclesiae" (elements of church) discussed in much counter-Reformation 
through pre-Vatican II church documents; or "communio" (communions or 
communities of Christians) whose community matters more than the 
collection of those remnants of the Catholic Church.

Cardinal Kasper (along with nearly all modern Catholic theologians) 
favors the latter interpretation, and calls the prior too materialistic 
in order to point out its shortcomings.  In this reflection, he 
describes why it's important that the Church started looking at this 
differently 40 years ago.

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