> From: "Geo." 
> "Adam Flinton"  wrote in message
> news:809257.512f5b{at}harborwebs.com...
>> Was SQL Slammer a windows problem or a SQL Server problem? I would say it
> was a
>> SQL Server problem. I would not say CodeRed was a Windows problem but a
> IIS
>> one. You could happily run Apache & not have IIS on the machine.
> slammer was an sqlserver problem, ONLY because it's not on the NT CD. Make
> an optional file system that is based on sqlserver, include it on the NT CD
> and that all changes.
> OE is an NT problem, exactly because it's included on the CD. Doesn't matter
> if its optional like directory services or not, it's part of the
> distribution it counts. OSS is no different than the different groups at MS,
> what makes the software count is whether or not it's included in the
> product.
> Geo.


Ah right so....if MS includes other s/w then heck it's a
"distribution" & it's part of Windows as much as say GAIM
"is part of Linux"?

Something I noticed in the FT..

http://search.ft.com/search/article.html?id=040217001044&query=microsoft+eu&vsc
_appId=totalSearch&state=Form

"Microsoft has attempted to settle its long-running competition case
with the European Commission by proposing that rival companies' products be
included on CD-ROMs supplied with personal computers.

But so far the Commission, the regulatory arm of the European Union, has
indicated that the proposal - a centrepiece of Microsoft's push to resolve
the case - is not enough.

Microsoft's rivals also believe the suggestion fails to meet their
concerns, arguing that the pick-up rate for software provided on such
CD-ROMs is extremely low.

The Commission has reached a preliminary decision that Microsoft has broken
European law by choking out competitors and intends to give a final ruling
before May.

The most intractable part of the case concerns Microsoft's Media Player,
which the Commission alleges is unfairly bundled with the Windows operating
system, limiting demand for rival products.

Microsoft says the program is an integral part of the operating system and
meets consumer demand for more functions.

In formal charges filed last August, the Commission called for Microsoft to
detach Media Player from Windows or, alternatively, include a limited
number of rival products.

Microsoft's proposal to supply rival Media Player programs on CD-ROMs is
part of an attempt to chart a middle course through such options, which the
company maintains are impractical and disproportionate.

Neither the commission nor Microsoft would comment yesterday, but Microsoft
believes providing CDs with rival programs could also help resolve other
pending allegations of bundling and avoid future litigation.

Although Microsoft has made other proposals to deal with the Media Player
issue, the CD suggestion is at the heart of its push for a settlement on
the issue.

Microsoft regards its CD proposal as a "live issue", despite the
Commission's dissatisfaction and the hostility of rivals such as
RealNetworks, the company whose complaint triggered the Commission's
bundling investigation.

The complainants argue that the additional inconvenience and difficulty of
installing software means that Media Player would still enjoy a
considerable advantage by virtue of coming with Windows."

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