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to: FREDRIC RICE
from: FRANK MASINGILL
date: 1998-04-12 07:20:00
subject: The Evil that is Religion

 mb> One person posts this crap, and now "most" Christians think this or that
 mb> because of it.  How quaint your prejudice, it is.
 FR> I'm sure you would like to pretend that such bigotry isn't a fundamental
 FR> aspect of Christianity yet you will need to ignore all of Christianity's
 FR> history to do so.  Every hate organization in the United States is
 FR> comprised of theists; nearly all of them Christian organizations with
 FR> the rest being Muslim or Jewish.
mb> Very prejudiced, indeed.
 FR> Very illiterate, indeed.  I'll make some assumptions about your
 FR> ambiguous commentary and then I'll note that you decided it was best not
 FR> to point out any aspect of my summation which was in the least bit
 FR> "inaccurate" or "sadly mistaken."  That was probably very wise of you.
 FR> And I'll also note that you thought it best not to try to come up with
 FR> any non-religious hate organization in operation in the United States.
 FR> That was also probably very wise of you.
 FR> The KKK, Aryan Nations, Church of Jesus Christ Christian, all the
 FR> so-called "Identity" groups, all the Reconstructionists, all the
 FR> homophpobic groups, all the anti-women groups, the Sword and the Cross,
 FR> the Promise Keeper cult, they're _all_ Christian hate groups.
 FR> And once again you couldn't bring yourself to deny this truth.  I have a
 FR> fairly large list of religious hate organizations in operation in the
 FR> United States.  I have searched for a little under a year now for any
 FR> hate group which is atheistic.
 FR> If you know of any, do try to name them.  Thanks.
 FR> By their fruits ye shall know them. The history of Christianity is full
 FR> of fruits.
mb> You have a prejudiced theory about the history of Christianity.
 FR> Actually, I have always allowed Christians to speak for themselves. It
 FR> is most certain that the most accurate understanding of what a cult is
 FR> about comes straight from the believers in the cult and their actions.
 mb> Certainly you can cite myriads of episodes of ignorant pseudo-christian
 mb> bigotry, but these things have ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with
 mb> Christianity - they instead have everything to do with human stupidity.
 FR> Certainly each and every evil Christian tyrant down through history
 FR> won't simply disappear just because you don't like to hear the truth.
 FR> It is an undeniable fact that what a club stands for is determined not
 FR> by what the club advocates, but by what it does.
 FR> (Read that over and over again until you understand it.)
 FR> And I might add that you can't join the KKK and then demand you're not a
 FR> racist.  If that analogy remains unclear, I'll fill in the blanks: If
 FR> you willingly join an evil cult knowing full well what the cult stands
 FR> for, you are in agreement with it.  And if _that_ remains unclear, I'll
 FR> try again:  If you're a Christian who knows what the history of your
 FR> cult is, you are in agreement with what it stands for.
 FR> Pretending Christianity's history doesn't exist is silly.
   Since I don't claim to be "Christian" I'll answer this bigotry head on.
The ACTUAL history of Christianity is very much like the Christian symbolism
of "the way of the Cross" (Chardin among others).  Any historian worth 
er/his
salt refrains from trying to "wow" people by slanting history.  The ACTUAL
history of Christianity contains a record of enormous prejudice and murder
right alongside of a history of unparalleled kindness, protection of the less
fortunate and a host of other great deeds.  
   Signed: another Silly one.
Sincerely, 
                                     Frank
                                                                              
                                                       
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* Origin: Maybe in 5,000 years - frankmas@juno.com (1:396/45.12)

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