Hi, Ross!

18 May 04 19:11, Ross Cassell said to Alex Shakhaylo:

 RC>>> Do you think it doesnt have it roots in the recent overturning
 RC>>> of a ruling Ward as IC made in a PC?

 AS>> Passwording out a link without a previouse agreement ever
 AS>> regarded XAB

 RC> ^^^
 AS>> here.
 RC>      ^^^^
 RC> Very key distinction you make there.

Yep. But there was times when it was regarded this way everywhere.
And nobody still explained a logic according to which ZMH should be
mandatory but all the incoming sessions may be prevented. There is
no logic in it.

 RC> Its how the coordinator structure in Zone 2 has chosen to interpret
 RC> policy, that interpretation is not universal.

No. It's a plain formal logic. Any other interpretation makes the Policy
writers the brainless idiots who never heard of it (of a formal logic).

 AS>> Last overruling is a revolt, it has nothing in common with
 AS>> FidoNet and with Policy. It's something riduculous, politically
 AS>> based and I will not be surprised in case Fidonet will ignore
 AS>> such ZCC and it rulings.

 RC> and Wards new voting Formula remedies what?

Hey .. You seem more anti-Ward oriented than anything else. Try
to relax. I haven't said the word 'Ward', but your unconditioned
reflex has been invoked anyway :(

 AS>> We've got in an exclusive cycle, and I'm afraid it happened long
 AS>> ago. Yes, I'm against one-person ZCC, but I'm also against ZCC
 AS>> whoes deci- sions kill the network.

 RC> With Wards

Hush, please. I do not want discuss Ward for no sense. I want discuss
ZCC, which claims to be a superior body.

 AS>> but several persons from a zone which represent 90% of sysops
 AS>> seems good to me. It cannot serve as a superior body until this
 AS>> disbalance adjusted.

 RC> Its just Fidonets version of the UN or an appeals court, think of it
 RC> as 6 wise men sitting on the tribal council.(metaphor)
 RC> and what has the ZCC had to decide on that has had such vast effects
 RC> on the network, lessee they put and end to a Policy Complaint that
 RC> was between just TWO sysops. Afyterwards people were running around
 RC> thinking that it sets a deadly precedent,

Yes, it does.

 RC> Hmmm. Alex, this doesnt look like a very busy ZCC too me, 3 issues in
 RC> almost 4 years, only 2 of those 3 resulted in a official vote?

 RC> Can you explain to me how the ZCC is killing Fidonet?

By its silly and unlogical decisions.

Bye, Sinc, Alex

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