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to: Adam Flinton
from: Rich
date: 2004-02-17 09:57:24
subject: Re: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2004-051.html

From: "Rich" 

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   You are clueless.  From http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/faq.html

  Did you try to fix any vulnerabilities?=20
  No, we did not look for or find any vulnerabilities in the course of =
our work. We only changed enough to add our new mechanisms.

and

  Can I install Security-enhanced Linux on an existing Linux system?=20
  Yes. You actually need to have an existing Linux system. The =
Security-enhanced Linux distribution is source code for a modified Linux =
kernel and some utilities. You must have the ability to compile a kernel =
and also have necessary, but unmodified system packages. Our = distribution
is known to install on the Red Hat distribution, and has = not been tested
with others.


Humorously, the selinux folks picked the same example linux that I used =
in my discussion.  In fact it was the only one they tested.

   It appears you are now saying the linux is a minimal collection of =
source code which is not executable.  Great.  It will be fun watching = you
explain to people that linux does nothing but might make a good = read.

Rich

  "Adam Flinton"  wrote in message =
news:509263.5140d4{at}harborwebs.com...

  That's one way. Another is to say that "the distrib of my choice =
is...SE Linux"
  & then compare the security advisories. SE Linux comes with SRPM'es =
for fedora
  but coz they're source & not binaries I would think they can't be =
counted as
  installed apps. i.e. not merely are they not installed by default but =
if you
  want to install em then you have to compile em yourself.

  Adam
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   You are
clueless.  =
From http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/f" target="new">http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/f=">http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/faq.html">http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/f=
aq.html
 

  Did you try=20
  to fix any vulnerabilities? 
  No, we did not look for or find any =
vulnerabilities in=20
  the course of our work. We only changed enough to add our new=20
  mechanisms.
and
 

  Can I install=20
  Security-enhanced Linux on an existing Linux system? 
  Yes. You actually need to have an existing =
Linux=20
  system. The Security-enhanced Linux distribution is source code =
for a=20
  modified Linux kernel and some utilities. You must have the ability to =
compile=20
  a kernel and also have necessary, but unmodified system packages. =
Our distribution is known to install on the Red Hat=20
  distribution, and has not been tested with=20
others.
 
Humorously, the selinux folks picked =
the same=20
example linux that I used in my discussion.  In fact it was the =
only one=20
they tested.
 
   It
appears you are now =
saying the=20
linux is a minimal collection of source code which is not = executable. =20
Great.  It will be fun watching you explain to people that linux = does=20
nothing but might make a good read.
 
Rich
 

  "Adam Flinton" <Adam.Flinton{at}harborwebs.commailto:Adam.Flinton{at}harborwebs.com">Adam.Flinton{at}harborwebs.com
A>>=20
  wrote in message news:509263.5140d4{at}harborwebs.=
com...That's=20
  one way. Another is to say that "the distrib of my choice is...SE=20
  Linux"& then compare the security advisories. SE
Linux comes =
with=20
  SRPM'es for fedorabut coz they're source & not binaries I =
would think=20
  they can't be counted asinstalled apps. i.e. not merely are they =
not=20
  installed by default but if youwant to install em then you have to =
compile=20
  em yourself.Adam

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