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from: rkresge@web.iis-centpa.com (Roger Kresge)
date: 1996-11-25 00:00:00
subject: Re: Let your computer earn you some money for a change

From: rkresge@web.iis-centpa.com (Roger Kresge)
Subject: Re: Let your computer earn you some money for a change
Date: 1996/11/25
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You're not satisfied with spamming this scam all over fido, but you're so
gutless you hide behind an alias, too.

On Mon, 25 Nov 1996 02:46:30 GMT, anyuser@anyones.net (Phil) wrote:

>Hello!
>I've got some awesome news that I think you need to take two
>minutes to read if you have ever thought "How could I make some
>serious cash in a hurry???" , or been in serious debt,  ready to do
>almost anything to get the money needed to pay off those bill
>collectors. So grab a snack, a warm cup of coffee, or a glass of your
>favorite beverage, get comfortable and listen to this interesting,
>exciting find!
>   Let me start by saying that I FINALLY FOUND IT! That's right!. I
>found it! And I HATE GET RICH QUICK SCHEMES!! I hate those schemes
>like multi-level marketing, mail-order schemes, envelope stuffing
>scams, 900 number scams... the list goes on forever. I have tried
>every darn get rich quick scheme out there over the past 12 years. I
>somehow got on mailing lists for people looking to make money (more
>like 'desperate stupid people who will try anything for money!').
>Well,  when I was a teenager,  these claims to 'get me rich quick'
>sounded irresistible! I would shell out $14.95 here, $29.95 there,
>$24.95 here, and another $49.95 there.  I had maxed out my new Circuit
>City Card AND my Visa...I was desperate for money!! 

Let's see...you were a teenager with Circuit City AND Visa cards.  You're a
lying sack of spit.

>So, I gave them
>all a chance but failed at every one of them! Maybe they worked for
>some people, but not for me.  Eventually, I just tossed that JUNK MAIL
>in the trash when I got the mail.  I recognized it right away.  I can
>smell a money scam from a mile away these days,  SO I THOUGHT....
>I thought I could sniff out a scam easily.  WAS I WRONG!!  ....I LOVE
>THE INTERNET!!!

You took your truthfulness lessons at the same school Bill Clinton did.
You're lying, and you know it.  You're also an insensitive, rude, boorish,
intrusive clod who doesn't deserve the light of day, much less Internet
access.  You're lower than pond scum.  You're lower than whale droppings.
You're downright disgusting.  And you're off topic in fido.novell with your
stupid, repetitive, illegal scam/spam.

The minute you receive the first dollar through the U.S. Mail, you've
committed a Federal offense called mail fraud.  Good luck, buddy, because
I'm forwarding a copy of your post to the U.S. Postmaster General and to
the postmaster of your local system for appropriate action.  Here's why:

========
The following article originated from
http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/chainlet.htm


United States Postal Inspection Service


Chain Letters
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

A chain letter is a "get rich quick" scheme that promises that your mail
box will soon be stuffed full of cash if you decide to participate. You're
told you can make thousands of dollars every month if you follow the
detailed instructions in the letter. 

A typical chain letter includes names and addresses of several individuals
whom you may or may not know. You are instructed to send a certain amount
of money--usually $5--to the person at the top of the list, and then
eliminate that name and add yours to the bottom. You are then instructed
to mail copies of the letter to a few more individuals who will hopefully
repeat the entire process. The letter promises that if they follow the
same procedure, your name will gradually move to the top of the list and
you'll receive money -- lots of it. 

There's at least one problem with chain letters. They're illegal if they
request money or other items of value and promise a substantial return to
the participants. Chain letters are a form of gambling, and sending them
through the mail (or delivering them in person or by computer, but mailing
money to participate) violates Title 18, United States Code, Section 1302,
the Postal Lottery Statute. (Chain letters that ask for items of minor
value, like picture postcards or recipes, may be mailed, since such items
are not things of value within the meaning of the law.) 

Recently, high-tech chain letters have begun surfacing. They may be
disseminated over the Internet, or may require the copying and mailing of
computer disks rather than paper. Regardless of what technology is used to
advance the scheme, if the mail is used at any step along the way, it is
still illegal. 

The main thing to remember is that a chain letter is simply a bad
investment. You certainly won't get rich. You will receive little or no
money. The few dollars you may get will probably not be as much as you
spend making and mailing copies of the chain letter. 

Chain letters don't work because the promise that all participants in a
chain letter will be winners is mathematically impossible. Also, many
people participate, but do not send money to the person at the top of the
list.  Some others create a chain letter that lists their name numerous
times--in various forms with different addressee. So, in reality, all the
money in a chain is going to one person. 

Do not be fooled if the chain letter is used to sell inexpensive reports
on credit, mail order sales, mailing lists, or other topics. The primary
purpose is to take your money, not to sell information. "Selling" a
product does not ensure legality. Be doubly suspicious if there's a claim
that the U.S. Postal Service or U.S. Postal Inspection Service has
declared the letter legal. This is said only to mislead you. Neither the
Postal Service nor Postal Inspectors give prior approval to any chain
letter. 

Participating in a chain letter is a losing proposition. Turn over any
chain letter you receive that asks for money or other items of value to
your local postmaster or nearest Postal Inspector. Write on the mailing
envelope of the letter or in a separate transmittal letter, "I received
this in the mail and believe it may be illegal." 

>   I was scanning thru a NEWSGROUP and saw an article stating to
>GET CASH FAST!!  I thought..."Here on the Internet??  Well, I'll just
>have to see what schemes could possibly be on the internet." The
>article described a way to MAIL A ONE DOLLAR BILL TO ONLY FIVE PEOPLE
>AND MAKE $50, 0000 IN CASH WITHIN 4 WEEKS!  Well, the more I thought
>about it, the more I became very curious. Why? Because of the way it
>worked AND BECAUSE IT WOULD ONLY COST ME FIVE DOLLARS (AND FIVE
>STAMPS), THAT'S ALL I EVER PAY....EVER!!

>   Ok, so the $50,000 in cash was maybe a tough amount to reach, but
>it was possible.  I knew that I could at least get a return of $1,000
>or so.  So I did it!! As per the instructions in the article, I mailed
>out ('snail mail'for you e-mail fanatics) a single dollar bill to each
>of the five people on the list that was contained in the article.  I
>included a small note, with the dollar, that stated "Please Add Me To
>Your List."  I then removed the first position name of the five names
>listed and moved everyone up one position, and I put my name in
>position five of the list.  This is how the money starts rolling in!
>I then took this revised article now with my name on the list and
>REPOSTED IT ON AS MANY NEWSGROUPS AND LOCAL BULLETIN BOARD
>MESSAGE AREAS THAT I KNEW.  I then waited to watch the money come
>in...prepared to maybe receive about $1000 to $1500 in cash or so....
>But what a welcome surprise when those envelopes kept coming in!!!  I
>knew what they were as soon as I saw the return addresses from people
>all over the world-Most from the U.S., but some from Canada, even some
>from Australia!  I tell you, THAT WAS EXCITING!!  So how much did I
>get in total return?  $1000? $5000? Not even!!! I received a total of
>$23,343!!!  I couldn't believe it!!

>   I now have a brand new black Acura Integra to speak for, due to
>this!! Now after almost 8 months, I am ready to do it again!!! So
>maybe it was possible to get $50,000 in cash, I don't know, but  IT
>COMPLETELY DEPENDS ON YOU, THE INDIVIDUAL!  You must follow through
>and repost this article everywhere you can think of!  The more
>postings you achieve will determine how much cash will arrive in your
>very own mailbox!!  It's just too easy to pass up!!!

>   Let's review the reasons why you should do this:  The only cost
>factors are for the five stamps, the 5 envelopes and the 5 one dollar
>bills that you send out to the listed names by snail mail (US Postal
>Service Mail).  Then just simply repost the article (WITH YOUR NAME
>ADDED) to all the newsgroups and local BBS's you can.  Then sit back
>and, (ironically), enjoy walking (you can run if you like! :o  ) down
>your driveway to your mailbox and scoop up your rewards!!  We all have
>five dollars to put into such an easy effortless investment with
>SPECTACULAR REALISTIC RETURNS OF $15,000 to $25,000 in about 3-5
>weeks!  So HOLD OFF ON THOSE LOTTERY NUMBERS FOR TODAY,EAT AT HOME
>TONIGHT INSTEAD OF TAKEOUT FROM McDONALDS AND INVEST FIVE  DOLLARS IN
>THIS AMAZING MONEY MAKING SYSTEM NOW!!! YOU CAN'T LOSE!!

>   So how do you do it exactly, you ask?  I have carefully provided
>the mostdetailed, yet straightforward instructions on how to easily
>get this underway and get your cash on its way. SO, ARE YOU READY TO
>MAKE SOME CASH!!!?? HERE WE GO!!!

>*** THE LIST OF NAMES IS AT THE END OF THIS ARTICLE. ***

>OK,  Read this carefully.  Get a printout of this information, if you
>like, so you can easily refer to it as often as needed.

>INSTRUCTIONS:

>1.  Take a sheet of paper and write on it the following:
>"Please add my name to your list".  This creates a service out of this
>money making system and thus making it completely legal. You are not
>just randomly sending a dollar to someone, you are paying one dollar
>for a legitimate service.  Make sure  you include your name and
>address.  I assure you that,  again,  this is completely legal!  For a
>neat little twist, also write what slot their name was in: "You were
>in slot 3",  Just to add a little fun!  This is all about having fun
>and making money at the same time!

>2.  Now fold this sheet of paper around a dollar bill ,(no checks or
>money orders), and put them into an envelope and send it on its way to
>the five people listed.  The folding of the paper around the bill will
>insure its arrival to its recipient. THIS STEP IS IMPORTANT!!

>3.  Now listen carefully, here's where you get YOUR MONEY COMING TO
>YOUR MAILBOX.   Look at the list of five people;  remove the first
>name from position one and move everyone on the list up slot one on
>the list.  Position 2 name will now move to the position 1 slot ,
>position 3 will now become position 2, 4 will be be 3, 5 wil be 4.
>Now put your name, address, zipcode AND COUNTRY in position 5, the
>bottom position on the list.

>4.  Now upload this updated file to as many newsgroups and local
>bulletin boards' message areas & file section as possible.  Give a
>catchy description of the file so it gets noticed!!  Such as:
>"NEED FAST CASH?, HERE IT IS!" or "NEED CASH TO PAY OFF
>YOUR DEBTS??",  etc.  And the more uploads, the more money you will
>make, and of course, the more money the others on the list will make
>too.  LET'S ALL TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER BY BEING HONEST AND BY PUTTING
>FORTH 120 PERCENT INTO THIS PROFITABLE & AMAZING SYSTEM!!! You'll reap
>the benefits, believe me!!! Set a goal for the number of total uploads
>you'll post, such as 15-20 postings or more!  Always have a goal in
>mind!!! If you can UUE encode the file when uploading,  that will make
>it easier for the people to receive it and have it downloaded to their
>hard drive.  That way they get a copy of the article right on their
>computer without hassles of viewing and then saving the article from
>the File menu. Don't alter the file type, leave it as an MS-DOS Text
>file. The best test is to be able to view this file using Microsoft's
>Notepad for Windows 3.x or WordPad for Windows '95. If the margins
>look right without making the screen slide left or right when at the
>ends of the sentences, you're in business!

>5.  If you need help uploading, simply ask the sysop of the BBS, or
>"POST" a message on a newsgroup asking how to post a file, tell them
>who your Internet provider is and PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS BE GLAD TO HELP.
>I would try to describe how to do it but there are simply too many
>internet software packages with slightly different yet relatively
>simple ways to post or upload a file.  Just ask for help or look in
>the help section for 'posting'. I do know that for GNN, you simply
>select 'POST' then enter a catchy description under the subject box,
>choose 'ATTACH', selecting 'UUE' and NOT 'TXT', then choose 'Browse'
>to go look for the file. Find your text file CASH.TXT and click on it
>and choose 'OK'.  Place a one line statement in the main body section
>of the message post screen. Something like "Download this to read how
>to get cash arriving in your mailbox with no paybacks!" or whatever.
>Just make sure it represents its true feasibility, NOT something
>like..."Get one million dollars flooding in your mailbox in two days!"

>You'll never get ANY responses!

>6.  And this is the step I like.  JUST SIT BACK AND ENJOY LIFE BECAUSE
>CASH IS ON THE WAY!!  Expect to see a little money start to
>trickle in around 2 weeks, but AT ABOUT WEEKS 3 & 4, THE MONEY STORM
>WILL HIT YOUR MAILBOX!! All you have to do is take it out of the
>mailbox and try not to scream too loud (outside anyway) when you
>realize YOU HIT THE BIG TIME AT LAST!!

>7.  So go PAY OFF YOUR BILLS AND DEBTS and then get that something
>special you always wanted or buy that special person in your life (or
>the one you want in your life)  a gift they'll never forget.  ENJOY
>LIFE!

>8.  Now when you get low on this money supply,  simply re-activate
>this file again; Reposting it in the old places where you originally
>posted and possibly some new places you now know of. Don't ever lose
>this file, always keep a copy at your reach for when you ever need
>cash.  THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE TOOL THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS RE-USE TIME AND
>TIME AGAIN WHEN CASH IS NEEDED!

>9.  (This step added by Charles Reiley).  Hello, This is exciting,
>isn't it?! While I'm on the list, just add a note saying "Please
>include extra money tips" with your name & E-MAIL address, and I will
>(FOR FREE) send you some neat methods to increase the money you will
>receive with this plan. Why?... Why not? I'm not a selfish jerk...I
>like helping out others. E-mail just makes it a touch easier and
>cheaper, too!  After I drop off the list, I can no longer offer you
>this advice, obviously, but maybe someone else who gets my tips will
>offer and simply replace my name on this step number 9. Good luck and
>give this plan your all, it will definitely pay off! Like Mike said,
>HAVE FUN WITH IT!!!

>10. (This comment added by Mike Lorincz) Hell dude, this is great,
>just
>send the money and wait like 1 week, then all of a sudden, BOOOOOOM!
>Mail flood full of dollar bills. Hahahah its great

>11. (This comment added by David Marvasti) The first few days your
>like
>darn
>where's my cash?  Then all of a sudden...  I think I'm going to cry!

>12. (This comment added by John Smith) PLEASE SEND US DOLLAR!!!

>13. (This comment added by Phil Cook) Ya know, like all of you I've
>seen these
>posts in lots of newsgroups. But one day I got curious and decided to
>give it a try!
>Wow was I glad I did, I'm receiving letters from all over and they
>just keep comming!

>******************************************************************
>******************************************************************
>THE NAMES LIST       THE NAMES LIST      THE NAME LIST
>******************************************************************
>*     HONESTY IS WHAT MAKES THIS PROGRAM SUCCESSFUL!!!
>*
>*
>*     
>* 1. David Marvasti
>*     4337 City Lights Terr.
>*     Jamesville, NY 13078
>*
>* 2. K. Michael
>*     6202H Dakota Drive
>*     Grand Forks, ND, 58204
>*
>* 3. G. Jansen
>*     1703 Cedar Grove Dr.
>*     Apt.  3D
>*     Manitowoc, WI 54220
>*
>* 4. Jacin Ferreira
>*     1848 Junewood Avenue
>*     San Jose, CA 95132-1624 USA
>*     
>* 5.  Phil Cook
>*      Rt 2 Box 12
>*      Shanna's Trail
>*      Tatum, TX 75691 
>*

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