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to: Alex Shakhaylo
from: Ross Cassell
date: 2004-05-19 18:06:28
subject: International Coodinator

Hello Alex!

19 May 04 06:18, you wrote to me:

 AS>>> here.
 RC>>      ^^^^
 RC>> Very key distinction you make there.

 AS> Yep. But there was times when it was regarded this way everywhere.
 AS> And nobody still explained a logic according to which ZMH should be
 AS> mandatory but all the incoming sessions may be prevented. There is
 AS> no logic in it.

If 2 people have such interaction problems that one is abrasive/abusive to
the other, then I see nothing wrong with the "victim" to do what
he can to prevent contact. Policy complaints arent the answer for
everything..

 RC>> Its how the coordinator structure in Zone 2 has chosen to
 RC>> interpret policy, that interpretation is not universal.

 AS> No. It's a plain formal logic. Any other interpretation makes the
 AS> Policy writers the brainless idiots who never heard of it (of a formal
 AS> logic).

Its called "interpretation" we have already seen over the years
how people interpret policy, in most cases to fit an agenda.

 RC>> and Wards new voting Formula remedies what?

 AS> Hey .. You seem more anti-Ward oriented than anything else. Try
 AS> to relax. I haven't said the word 'Ward', but your unconditioned
 AS> reflex has been invoked anyway :(

Not anti-Ward, just his edict, now go read what I said about interpretations.

 RC>> Its just Fidonets version of the UN or an appeals court, think of
 RC>> it as 6 wise men sitting on the tribal council.(metaphor) and
 RC>> what has the ZCC had to decide on that has had such vast effects
 RC>> on the network, lessee they put and end to a Policy Complaint
 RC>> that was between just TWO sysops. Afyterwards people were running
 RC>> around thinking that it sets a deadly precedent,

 AS> Yes, it does.

How so?

 RC>> Hmmm. Alex, this doesnt look like a very busy ZCC too me, 3
 RC>> issues in almost 4 years, only 2 of those 3 resulted in a
 RC>> official vote?

 RC>> Can you explain to me how the ZCC is killing Fidonet?

 AS> By its silly and unlogical decisions.

If your contention is that the ZCC is a "bad thing", would you
still think so if they had ruled opposite from what they have? Lets see if
you can eat that cake?

==
Ross
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