Rod, at 21:53 on Mar 07 1996, you wrote to Bill Grimsley...

RS> Proves sweet fuck all about anything at all Bill. You never
RS> even called another non USR at V32bis speeds at anything like
RS> the same frequency to even see if say a Netcon V32bis max
RS> modem would be as bad on a line of the same quality as Pauls.

BG> You forget that I was doing email via Marwick
BG> for a couple of years before becoming a point.

RS> Nope.

I think that it is indeed quite significant that NONE of those calls ever
failed though.  I'm more than happy to agree that it PROVES nothing at all
scientifically, but the data from which my conclusions are drawn is
extremely limited to say the least.  And from our PsOV, there's not really
a hell of a lot we can do about that.

BG> He had NetComms and Telebits, and not once
BG> did I see a single failure to negotiate EC.

RS> Proves sweet fuck all about anything much.

Sure, but it still allows me to SURMISE that the problem with failed EC
connects to the Spirit is down to less-than-perfect ROM controller code, in
conjunction with lines which could be considerably better.  Nobody can
really PROVE anything, given the limited data available.

BG> Ditto with David's V.32b USR and NetComm M5 modems.

RS> Ditto, proves sweet fuck all about anything much.

Except that the S2 was severely lacking some decent ROM code, and yes, I do
realise that that still doesn't really PROVE anything at all.

BG> Not a single solitary problem.  Not until I called Paul's Spirit.

RS> And Brenton and Bob dont either, so that
RS> proves sweet fuck all about anything much.

Just like the double-send problem, there is still a constant, the Spirit.

RS> Just like your claims about what you say with modem testing at CHH
RS> doesnt either, coz you clearly have a real problem calling it NOW.

Dunno, I'll try again with the Sportie's new EPROM later today, and post
the stats.  So far, it APPEARS to be a bit more solid at the higher link
rate negotiations, but it's way too soon to tell just yet.

Regards, Bill

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