-=> Quoting STEVE GUNHOUSE to GUY PUTNAM <=-
 SG> I'm the guy who's been arguing with Neil Schulman (in PRN) that so far
 SG> Dole is not a viable candidate. It seriously bothers me when a self-
 SG> proclaimed Libertarian like Neil believes Dole is the only choice.
Neil, like anyone else, can get "snowed" if he's not careful.
 SG> OTOH, if he endorses Dole, I can't fault the NRA for the same short-
 SG> sightedness.
Here, WE PART COMPANY.  NRA doesn't operate on "short-sightedness!"  What
does their paid staff of upper-level employees make?  $80k-$100k/yr?  More? 
They devote 8 hours/day to their job, which is to know more than the rest
of us who have other jobs & have to study-up on this in our spare time.
Where do you get off implying that you or I know more about The Supreme Law
of the Land than those NRA employees that go to work every day just to
know.
NRA employees know _exactly_ what they are doing, & they know a lot more
about it than any of us.  They are selling-out the United States & our
Constitution, straight to Hell!  They are profiting from bribes right now,
along with promises of financial grandeur for their futures.  Why else
would they support anti-gun candidates who voted for the "Crime" Bill, the
Brady Bill, etc.?
You seem to think what they want you to think . . . that they are mislead
idiots that just need more money & a little education from the grassroots! 
Haven't you noticed that this is _exactly_ what Republican politicians want
you to think?
NRA & Republicans (& Demos) are willing tools of the Fascist Hegelian
dialectic process.  Their aim is to confuse your eyes with the Conflict of
Opposites (Demo/Repubs, NRA/Schumer) while the destruction of Fascism moves
unobstructed down the center, bringing great pain & death down upon you &
your family, & to walk-off with your assets . . . .
 SG> Hutchinson is also not up for reelection this year.
 
 GP> Best I recall NRA supported her last time, & probably will next time.
 GP> She voted for the rifle/magazine ban!
 SG> Do you recall her opponent? She was really the only choice.
There will be other people on the ballot . . . . .
 SG> Most importantly, you're not looking at the big picture. Many people
 SG> voted for the Crime Bill though they opposed the Feinstein amendment
 SG> (the "assault weapons" ban). All that means is that to them, guns are
 SG> not the number 1 issue. As much as I may disagree, that's their
 SG> opinion. 
Wrong!  The Big Picture is that those politicians who voted for a
rifle/magazine ban are violating the Law.  They are defying the American
people & illegally destroying the Bill of Rights.  They are Felons, & most
assuredly recipients of ongoing bribes.
The Supreme Law of the Land is the #1 issue . . . . whether they like it or
not.  They are destroying the Supreme Law of the Land.  Their acts are
Treason, & therefore, illegal.  This is the #1 issue, under The Supreme Law
of the Land.  Any statute or court "ruling" to the contrary is illegal.
NRA continues to support many of these Traitors.  NRA is a Traitor.  Can it
get any clearer than this?  The Founding Fathers would agree.  Those lead
around like bulls with rings in their noses . . . those who have been taken
in by the Fascist Hegelian dialectic . . . are those who do not agree with
my position.
 SG> Hutchinson - and of course a great many representatives - are
 SG> still generally on our side, 
That is absolute foolishness.  If you don't think so, ask yourself if
George Washington would agree with you . . . !?  Hutchinson, like Gramm &
most of the House are on the Fascist take.  
 SG> . . . great many representatives - are still generally on our side,    
 SG> but have other priorities.
As long as the bribes keep coming in, constituents can wait!
 GP> If NRA doesn't oppose magazine-banning Gramm, then they will be
 GP> supporting another anti-gun candidate.  Is there something strange in
 GP> the air, or, am I the only one noticing that NRA heavily supports
 GP> anti-gun candidates?
 SG> Again, Gramm is not anti-gun, he just doesn't consider us his first
 SG> priority. 
_We_ just happen to be Phil Gramm's #2 priority, after The Constitution &
the oath he took!  If he doesn't consider these as his top priorities, then
he is a Felon & a Traitor.
 SG> Unless you think you could defeat both him and his opponent,
 SG> we're stuck with what's avvailable.
I'm still waiting to find out what the Mexican history teacher running on
the Demo ticket believes in.  If he's not more of a Flaming Fascist than
Gramm, then he may likely get my vote.  If he is, then there are going to
be other names on the ballot, aren't there.
 
 SG> That's not exactly what happened, they never did give money to Brooks
 SG> in '94 due to the outcry.
 
 GP> Somebody paid for Tanya's plane ticket.
 SG> So? That's not money to Brooks. In other words, you ignored what I
 SG> said. 
You're trying to split hairs to change the subject.  No, it wasn't cash
into Brook's campaign fund . . . yes, it was money spent for Brook's
support.  Hope that ends this segment . . . . .
 SG> They had endorsed Brooks for all the wrong
 SG> reasons, but were forced to withdraw that support.
 
 GP> I just don't recall them withdrawing support for Brooks, unless it was
 GP> the morning of the election.
 SG> They did withdraw support for Brooks, but they didn't oppose him -
 SG> they didn't support Stockman. 
Well now, that's not exactly a blazing endorsement for a supposedly pro-gun
organization, is it?
 SG> As usual, you go a bit far with your rhetoric.
 
 GP> Perhaps its slipped past you, but don't you find it rather odd that
 GP> our employees want all our guns, ammo & magazines _right_now_, whether
 GP> Repub or Demo!?
 SG> No, it did not slip past me. I know that the politicians don't
 SG> understand what this country is about - including our mutual favorite
 SG> issue. 
Oh, NO . . . not again!  You don't think these Traitors, getting $10,000/mo
salary out of the taxpayers pockets don't know anything about politics, but
that _you_ do?  How is it that you learn more in your spare time, than they
learn in 8 hrs/day while getting paid $10k/mo to do it?  Do you _really_
think they aren't up there in DC, laughing their asses off at you, while
spending your tax money, as they represent those who bribe them the most?
These portions of human feces understand _exactly_ what this country is
about, much better than you or I.  They also understand that the forces of
International Fascism pay much higher than you & I.  Besides, why not
collect from both?
 SG> Right now, the majority of people on the street don't either.
The majority of the people have fallen for the Conflict of Opposites, just
as planned.
 SG> Without the support of the people, we will never get good politicians
 SG> in. 
Still no reason to fall-in with the Fascists . . . just because everybody
else is doing it!
 SG> You're suggesting throwing away everything in favor of an unknown,
 
 GP> I'm suggesting throwing away all anti-gunners in favor of freedom!
 GP> Isn't that what our Founding Fathers did, throw it "all away" for
 GP> freedom? We wouldn't be throwing anything away that they didn't, which
 GP> is Tyranny?
 SG> So then, are you suggesting a second revolution, today? How come I
 SG> don't see you on the street with your rifle, then? 
I'm suggesting a revolution at the polls!  By throwing it "all" away, I'm
suggesting throwing the supposed "comfort" of constantly choosing between
the DemoPublicans.  The Founding Fathers threw away a lot more than that. 
Remember those posts about what eventually happened to the fortunes of most
of the FF's?  If they can weather that, we ought to be able to weather
voting for someone besides the DemoPublicans.  That's so milk-toast
compared to what they went through . . . .
 SG> Sorry, we need something more before that'll happen. 
Like maybe for them to take our guns?
 SG> Do you have a better candidate for the Senate than Gramm? 
As I said, I'm going to take a hard look at that school teacher running
against him.  I can assure you I would write-in Nolan Penny or Dave Appel's
name before I'd vote for the Traitor Gramm!
 SG> I have yet to see one - why aren't you running? 
I may . . . the pay is great & the bribes even better.  If
Stockman/Chenowith types continue to get in, why not me?
 SG> As
 SG> I've said,I don't like some of the policies currently supported by the
 SG> NRA, but they're still the best thing we have. They still tend to play
 SG> the odds - which I don't buy -
If marching to the ovens in the Gulag was the "best thing you have," would
you just get up & do it?
 GP> NRA needs to be changed by the membership from "best thing we have,"
 GP> into something actually _good_.  Just like gov't, all current
 GP> compromising NRA "leaders" need to be thrown out, & regular folks from
 GP> back home, people like you, need to be sent up there to run things &
 GP> put on salary so they can afford to drop everything & do it.
 SG> Again, good luck. You have to convince the rest of the membership
 SG> first. 
All I have to do is withdraw my money . . . & I've done that!  How 'bot
you?  Still NRA's sucker?
 GP> No, I'm saying I don't want _any_ more Klintons, Doles or
 GP> Gingriches . . . period.  There's no reason NRA members can't get off
 GP> their bottoms & put some regular folks in leadership so they can run
 GP> things properly.  There's no reason NRA can't support the Constitution
 GP> Party, or create a party from the ranks of gun owners.  Its not an
 GP> impossible goal, especially with the stakes so high.
 SG> I think that having a Shooter's Party - as they do in Australia -
 SG> would be a good start. But see how much good they did there. :-(
There was a Shooter's Party at Lexington & Concord . . . . .
 SG> And of course, you're too late for this election. 
Oh no I'm not!  I've still got till November to vote against Klinton/Dole.
 SG> Let me know when you have a real option. For the time being, all of
 SG> our choices are bad, but all the shouting in the world won't fix it.
I've had a _real_ option all along . . . . cut off all votes to anti-
gunners & all money to organizations (like NRA) who support them. 
Politicians & organizations only get 1 (one) chance at my support!  Quit
compromising just like the NRA compromises.
... If we wake up today, we may still find a way . . . -- Carl Klang song
--- Blue Wave v2.12 [NR]
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